The Golden Hind on a Friday evening....

[whole diary]

[EBrown]

Once again, if the Gateline is set appropriately, none of the above is required.

...and the access from the footbridge at the country end where the gate line is (virtually) never in use?


Edit: Changed 'rear' to 'country end'

[Southern Stag]

Seems to be in use in the evening peak in my experience, but apart from that it is very rare.

[inspector_blakey]

Woking is a full stop in both directions, there's only a few Weymouth services in the evening peak which are pick up only at Woking.

Bit pedantic of me, but the 1720 Exeter does not stop at Clapham and is pick-up only at Woking: accordingly it's advertised at Waterloo as first stop Basingstoke.

[swrural]

Woking is a full stop in both directions, there's only a few Weymouth services in the evening peak which are pick up only at Woking.

Bit pedantic of me, but the 1720 Exeter does not stop at Clapham and is pick-up only at Woking: accordingly it's advertised at Waterloo as first stop Basingstoke.

It's not pedantic but the point was already made in successive postings. 

See  last  Reply #39 on: February 16, 2013, 12:57:33 PM

   

[eightf48544]

Back to the original topic how did you get on Mookiemoo? Did I miss your post?

[thetrout]

Woking is a full stop in both directions, there's only a few Weymouth services in the evening peak which are pick up only at Woking.

Bit pedantic of me, but the 1720 Exeter does not stop at Clapham and is pick-up only at Woking: accordingly it's advertised at Waterloo as first stop Basingstoke.

The 17:50 however is non stop between WAT and BSK^▸ (Basingstoke station, or Brake Standard Corridor (carriage), depending on context)... I've caught that train before

[vacmanfan]

Once again, if the Gateline is set appropriately, none of the above is required.

...and the access from the footbridge at the country end where the gate line is (virtually) never in use?


Edit: Changed 'rear' to 'country end'

And so if the Gateline is set properly, it will be in use...

[thetrout]

And so if the Gateline is set properly, it will be in use...

I think what he means is the Gateline is near to always locked open............. I could say he's wrong... But I'd be lying

[Mookiemoo]

Thanks all - had an enjoyable weekend.

[Mookiemoo]

Once again, if the Gateline is set appropriately, none of the above is required.

I gave a random example earlier - lets try a specific one... Lets be specific. 

Between 1745 and 1815 on platforms 1-6 at Paddington ^ all of which are either unbarriered or controlled by the same gates^you have the following scheduled departures.

Platform 5 1745 Swansea
Platform 1 1748 Cheltenham
Platform 2 1800 Bristol
Platform 4 1803 Golden Hind
Platform 3 1815 Swansea

Only one of them does not set down at Reading.  How can you properly control the barriers / gateline to stop reading passengers accessing the platform for the 1803?  The only way would be to put a person on every door to the train and stop anyone with a reading or oxford ticket from boarding the train at Paddington.

You couldn^t really implement it at Reading either unless you stopped people at the exit door of the train.  Lets say I was on the 1800, got off at Reading, stopped to spend a penny either figuratively or literally in one of the upper crust sorts^.then tried to depart the station just as the 1803 was letting out its passengers?

The ONLY way to stop it is a human ticket check on the doors of the 1803.

[ChrisB]

Or on the train before it gets to Reading

[Mookiemoo]

Or on the train before it gets to Reading

I agree but that has been dismissed as impractical etc.

And I am pretty intrigued by vacmanfans insistence on programming the gateline correctly without indicating even in theoryhow it could be done.

[bobm]

But it isn't just Reading, it is people changing at Reading too - which means a much wider range of destinations would need to be programmed into barriers if such a thing was possible.  Therefore I agree it has to be manual check on people as they board.  However, as has also been stated, I doubt it is a priority for FGW^▸ (First Great Western).

[Southern Stag]

The attitude with pick up only stops in my experience seems mainly to be to discourage passengers for alighting and keeping the numbers doing so to a minimum, not a strict approach to enforcement. Set down only stops are often late night services with some slack built in, having all set down only stops allows early running.

[bobm]

Set down only stops are often late night services with some slack built in, having all set down only stops allows early running.

That also helps when said services are replaced by buses. If there is no one on board wanting a station the replacement bus can legitimately miss it out and save time.