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« Reply #1980 on: May 13, 2023, 12:45:19 »
Quote from: IndustryInsider on May 13, 2023, 11:34:19
Quote from: TaplowGreen on May 13, 2023, 08:34:30
Sun, 14 May 21:15 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:03
Sun, 14 May 23:50 London Paddington to Penzance due 07:54

Both sleepers cancelled tomorrow due to crew shortage.

Where is that listed?  I can’t see it on journeycheck.

I saw it on there earlier but it's gone now. Perhaps they have found someone to work them.
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« Reply #1981 on: May 13, 2023, 13:02:19 »
Quote from: old original on May 13, 2023, 12:45:19
I saw it on there earlier but it's gone now. Perhaps they have found someone to work them.

Quite possibly.  Or it was listed in error?  Or it was delisted in error and will reappear again at some point?

Cancellations listed 36 hours in advance and then a couple hours later to disappear without a reinstatement message probably sums up the usefulness of journeycheck perfectly!
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« Reply #1982 on: May 13, 2023, 23:06:51 »
Sleepers were both reinstated just before 9am today.
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« Reply #1983 on: May 16, 2023, 06:31:28 »
Quote from: IndustryInsider on May 13, 2023, 13:02:19
Quote from: old original on May 13, 2023, 12:45:19
I saw it on there earlier but it's gone now. Perhaps they have found someone to work them.

Quite possibly.  Or it was listed in error?  Or it was delisted in error and will reappear again at some point?

Cancellations listed 36 hours in advance and then a couple hours later to disappear without a reinstatement message probably sums up the usefulness of journeycheck perfectly!

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⚠️ Due to industrial action, our Night Riviera sleeper service will not be running in either direction until Sunday 21 May.

For more information on how industrial action may affect your journey please go to http://GWR.com.
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« Reply #1984 on: May 16, 2023, 06:53:18 »
Quote from: IndustryInsider on May 13, 2023, 13:02:19
Cancellations listed 36 hours in advance and then a couple hours later to disappear without a reinstatement message probably sums up the usefulness of journeycheck perfectly!

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« Reply #1985 on: May 16, 2023, 07:13:29 »
Quote from: TaplowGreen on May 16, 2023, 06:31:28
⚠️ Due to industrial action, our Night Riviera sleeper service will not be running in either direction until Sunday 21 May.

But no longer listed on JourneyCheck and still coming up in the journey planners.  Hopeless!
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« Reply #1986 on: May 16, 2023, 07:53:34 »
Reading the thread it appears that a number of customers were not notified on Sunday and  turned at Penzance station fully expecting to be travelling on the sleeper.
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« Reply #1987 on: May 16, 2023, 08:10:15 »
Expensive taxi then!
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« Reply #1988 on: May 16, 2023, 09:31:24 »
Quote from: ChrisB on May 16, 2023, 08:10:15
Expensive taxi then!

I would hope they’d have been given a hotel for the night in London, then travelled on the train of their choice the following morning.
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« Reply #1989 on: May 16, 2023, 11:08:37 »
Looks like the sleepers have now been removed from GWR▸ (Great Western Railway)'s journey planner and there is a note on the dedicated Night Riviera page on the website.
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« Reply #1990 on: May 16, 2023, 12:07:30 »
Quote from: IndustryInsider on May 16, 2023, 09:31:24
Quote from: ChrisB on May 16, 2023, 08:10:15
Expensive taxi then!

I would hope they’d have been given a hotel for the night in London, then travelled on the train of their choice the following morning.

From what I could gather (at the Penzance end), no hotel,  certainly no taxi, but they were graciously allowed to choose a train the following day.
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« Reply #1991 on: May 16, 2023, 13:09:10 »
That’s a tad unfair at that time of night….
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« Reply #1992 on: May 19, 2023, 05:29:55 »
Slow increase in the number of trains being cancelled with crew shortage.
Just noted amongst todays
17:04 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:24
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18:04 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:59
19:04 London Paddington to Penzance due 00:35

Nothing on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) departures for a Penzance connection on the 1904 (Paddington) from Plymouth - expensive taxi(s) I guess.
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« Reply #1993 on: May 19, 2023, 07:29:44 »
Quote from: GBM on May 19, 2023, 05:29:55
Slow increase in the number of trains being cancelled with crew shortage.
Just noted amongst todays
17:04 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:24
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18:04 London Paddington to Penzance due 22:59
19:04 London Paddington to Penzance due 00:35

Nothing on RTT» (Real Time Trains - website) departures for a Penzance connection on the 1904 (Paddington) from Plymouth - expensive taxi(s) I guess.

Up to about 60 cancellations and shortened journeys now - thought it must be Sunday when I first looked!

How is this the case on a normal working day? ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about) Overtime ban?
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« Reply #1994 on: May 19, 2023, 09:03:20 »
Yes, the non-contractual overtime ban in place this week will be responsible for most of it.
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