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« on: November 29, 2017, 08:05:37 »
Grayling:   New routes for old, new routes for old.
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2017, 08:11:52 »
I see Bristol to Portishead tops the list at 2.43
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2017, 08:21:39 »
 
 https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2017/11/28-bold-plan-unveiled-to-expand.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?
 

 
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2017, 08:22:01 »
Shouldn't there be a question mark after the title of this thread?
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2017, 09:10:33 »
Quote from: Henry on November 29, 2017, 08:21:39
Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?

If we remain in the EU» (European Union - about), that £50billion would be what we would still pay as *part* of our contribution, plus any more that would be agreed while we remain. So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget. That money is spent whichever happens
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 09:14:27 »
Quote from: Henry on November 29, 2017, 08:21:39

 https://www.railnews.co.uk/news/2017/11/28-bold-plan-unveiled-to-expand.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 Yet yesterday I read 55bn Euro's for our 'Brexit Divorce'.

 Hate to sound negative (yet again), but unless some 'private finance' is available, where's the money come from ?
 

It was never going to come from central government. In the unlikely event that a British government faced up to the need to increase taxation across the board, they'd be looking to redress the calamitous under-funding of health, education and a dozen other things. They'd never get as far as considering infrastructure.

When I heard about this 'vision' earlier today, I thought 'Surely they can't just be re-re-re-announcing East-West Rail, Portishead and so on..?

Sometimes I think I'm a cynic, and other times I think it takes quite a lot of optimism to bother getting out of bed. Pah!
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 09:17:09 »
Quote from: ChrisB on November 29, 2017, 09:10:33
So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget.

In the round, I very strongly doubt that.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 19:51:22 »
Quote from: ChrisB on November 29, 2017, 09:10:33

 So getting out will still be cheaper than staying in, don't forget. That money is spent whichever happens

The second half of the sentence is true: the 55bn or whatever sum is finally agreed upon will be what the UK▸ (United Kingdom) already owes, and is money spent whether in or out.

However, I'm not sure that the first part of the sentence holds. Time will tell. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 14:31:03 »
It'll be an unknown unfortunately - but yu can bet that if we stay in, we would agree budgets worth more than currently, so we would spend further money if we stay in.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2017, 14:47:03 »
Quote from: ChrisB on November 30, 2017, 14:31:03
It'll be an unknown unfortunately

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