Storing petrol

[whole diary]

[stuving]

Strike at oil refinery, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66223036
Time to prepare perhaps.
If those striking get what they want, then I expect more such disputes "if they won XX% we want the same, or a bit more"
If the strikers do not achieve their aims then I expect a prolonged dispute.

From that report they are not refinery workers, but work at the refinery for construction subcontractors. A refinery always some of that going on, but stopping their work should not directly affect operations. Obviously how that evolves depends on other union members at the refinery, picket lines, etc.

[TonyK]

Strike at oil refinery, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66223036
Time to prepare perhaps.
If those striking get what they want, then I expect more such disputes "if they won XX% we want the same, or a bit more"
If the strikers do not achieve their aims then I expect a prolonged dispute.

I'm ready, and so is RS. 

[broadgage]

The broadgage strategic petrol reserve may yet again prove useful.
Looking at events in the Middle east, an Arab oil embargo seems a likely response. I remember the last one !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_oil_crisis
And the one before that
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis Which had in more in common with current events.

[broadgage]

The situation in the Middle East continues to worsen, with an all out war now a distinct possibility.
It would therefore be prudent to review fuel stocks, not just petrol but also diesel fuel, heating oil, paraffin, and bottled gas.

If you use fire wood or coal I also suggest stocking up, supplies of these fuels wont be DIRECTLY affected by events in the ME, but shortages are likely if other domestic heating fuels run short or become even more expensive.

Despite the progress made with renewables, a significant proportion of UK^▸ (United Kingdom) electricity is still produced from natural gas. Much of it imported from the ME. BE PREPARED  with alternatives.

[TaplowGreen]

The situation in the Middle East continues to worsen, with an all out war now a distinct possibility.
It would therefore be prudent to review fuel stocks, not just petrol but also diesel fuel, heating oil, paraffin, and bottled gas.

If you use fire wood or coal I also suggest stocking up, supplies of these fuels wont be DIRECTLY affected by events in the ME, but shortages are likely if other domestic heating fuels run short or become even more expensive.

Despite the progress made with renewables, a significant proportion of UK^▸ (United Kingdom) electricity is still produced from natural gas. Much of it imported from the ME. BE PREPARED  with alternatives.

Have you moved into the bunker yet Broadgage?

[broadgage]

No but I have booked a place ! in a neighbours bunker that I helped design, build, and stock.

[TaplowGreen]

No but I have booked a place ! in a neighbours bunker that I helped design, build, and stock.

Hope there's room for a few bottles of Port!

[broadgage]

No but I have booked a place ! in a neighbours bunker that I helped design, build, and stock.

Hope there's room for a few bottles of Port!

Already stocked with 24 bottles of port, and a good supply of spirits.
Food, water, guns, and ammo are arguably of greater importance in an emergency and are stocked in generous volumes.
Other defensive equipment includes crossbows, sporting bats, and hunting knives. None of which need a licence to posses, though carrying same in a public place without good reason, is a serious offence.
Petrol is not stored within the bunker due to the fire risk, but a good supply is stored underground nearby.
Battery lighting for a month, candles for a year.

[TaplowGreen]

No but I have booked a place ! in a neighbours bunker that I helped design, build, and stock.

Hope there's room for a few bottles of Port!

Already stocked with 24 bottles of port, and a good supply of spirits.
Food, water, guns, and ammo are arguably of greater importance in an emergency and are stocked in generous volumes.
Other defensive equipment includes crossbows, sporting bats, and hunting knives. None of which need a licence to posses, though carrying same in a public place without good reason, is a serious offence.
Petrol is not stored within the bunker due to the fire risk, but a good supply is stored underground nearby.
Battery lighting for a month, candles for a year.

Sounds perfect - and of course the empty Port bottles can be used to make Molotov cocktails should your other ammunition run low?

[TonyK]

I bought two extra cans of corned beef, and worried about being labelled alarmist.

[IndustryInsider]

If the country/world ever develops into a situation where an underground bunker is the best option, then I will be very happy to exit stage left rather than clamber down the steps into it and live through the tortured life that would follow.

[Chris from Nailsea]

My wife uses our car for work during the week, so I offered to get some petrol, while I was taking some rubbish up to the tip yesterday.  At the filling station, I paused and thought, "Shall I fill up a full tank, or just get what she will need for the next week?"  I decided to get just £20 - that's more than a half tankful top-up and all she will need for the whole week.

My view, broadgage, is that she would otherwise be driving around with a full fuel tank, which is dead weight, increases our actual fuel consumption - and is unnecessary.

Sometime, if I'm in Minehead, I'd love to see your underground bunker. 

[TonyK]

My wife uses our car for work during the week, so I offered to get some petrol, while I was taking some rubbish up to the tip yesterday.  At the filling station, I paused and thought, "Shall I fill up a full tank, or just get what she will need for the next week?"  I decided to get just £20 - that's more than a half tankful top-up and all she will need for the whole week.

My view, broadgage, is that she would otherwise be driving around with a full fuel tank, which is dead weight, increases our actual fuel consumption - and is unnecessary.

Sometime, if I'm in Minehead, I'd love to see your underground bunker. 

In a car, I am sure the difference on performance between full tank and half tank is marginal, of interest only to the manufacturer when recording official figures for sales literature. 20 litres of petrol weighs under 15 kg, a fraction of the actual weight of the car. That will have the same effect on mpg figures as a medium sized dog, or practically zero, and the weight would decrease as you drive. Although I don't do it any more, I would balance that against the inconvenience of more frequent filling stops. In the days when I drove a petrol car, I would always fill up completely, just to extend the time before I had to do it again. An aircraft has other considerations that make it much more important.

Another consideration is, of course, the range anxiety suffered by many drivers of petrol and diesel cars, particularly during periods of low availability of the required fuel. There hasn't been such an issue of late that I have noticed, but I'm sure it was only last year that "No diesel/petrol" signs were to be seen outside those filling stations that didn't have long queues waiting outside. I don't suffer that any more.

[Timmer]

If the country/world ever develops into a situation where an underground bunker is the best option, then I will be very happy to exit stage left rather than clamber down the steps into it and live through the tortured life that would follow.

Totally. You’d go completely mad knowing you would never be able to leave the bunker.

[Chris from Nailsea]

There's always the bottles of Port.