Problems with Hitachi Intercity Express Trains - ongoing discussion since 2022

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[bobm]

The IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) which failed at Teignmouth this morning seems to have been moved to Newton Abbot platform 1 and is currently sitting there with a headcode 5H17. Is this saying what I think it means?!

No that’s a different IET.

Full story here  http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=28017.0

[a-driver]

The IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) which failed at Teignmouth this morning seems to have been moved to Newton Abbot platform 1 and is currently sitting there with a headcode 5H17. Is this saying what I think it means?!

No, that’s the IET that failed at Teignmouth Tuesday evening on 1C92

[GBM]

Lower availability today in Cornwall
05:03 Penzance to London Paddington due 09:55
Facilities on the 05:03 Penzance to London Paddington due 09:55.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10. There are no reservations on this service. (No added coaches at Plymouth).
Also
07:12 Plymouth to Penzance due 09:19
07:12 Plymouth to Penzance due 09:19 will be reinstated.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 9. First class not available. There are no reservations on this service.
This turns into
10:20 Penzance to London Paddington due 15:27
Facilities on the 10:20 Penzance to London Paddington due 15:27.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 9 to Plymouth. First class not available to Plymouth. There are no reservations on this service to Plymouth.

[GBM]

Of course, residents in Melksham would be delighted to have a regular 2 car train daily with a half hour service!
So Cornwall shouldn't complain.

[bobm]

Lower availability today in Cornwall
05:03 Penzance to London Paddington due 09:55
Facilities on the 05:03 Penzance to London Paddington due 09:55.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10. There are no reservations on this service. (No added coaches at Plymouth).
Also
07:12 Plymouth to Penzance due 09:19
07:12 Plymouth to Penzance due 09:19 will be reinstated.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 9. First class not available. There are no reservations on this service.
This turns into
10:20 Penzance to London Paddington due 15:27
Facilities on the 10:20 Penzance to London Paddington due 15:27.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 9 to Plymouth. First class not available to Plymouth. There are no reservations on this service to Plymouth.

I am told by a couple of passengers that the 10:20 was in fact formed of a 5 car IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)).   Looks like there was a set swap at Penzance with an incoming service from Bristol Temple Meads.   The 5 car ran all the way to London with no change of train or attachment at Plymouth.   

As reported on other occasions this wasn't updated on Journeycheck.

[Timmer]

The 1635 Paddington to Plymouth was only five vice ten, only went as far as Exeter, was absolutely rammed leaving Paddington and was not listed on Journeycheck as being shorformed. I know II^▸ (IndustryInsider - a respected member of this forum) has mentioned before you can’t rely on JC to give the complete picture.

I had elderly relatives on this train. Fortunately they just managed to get a seat, though not together and certainly not the ones that I had been booked for them.

The reason given was the usual ‘more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.’

[GBM]

The 1635 Paddington to Plymouth was only five vice ten, only went as far as Exeter, was absolutely rammed leaving Paddington and was not listed on Journeycheck as being shorformed. I know II^▸ (IndustryInsider - a respected member of this forum) has mentioned before you can’t rely on JC to give the complete picture.

I had elderly relatives on this train. Fortunately they just managed to get a seat, though not together and certainly not the ones that I had been booked for them.

The reason given was the usual ‘more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.’

Didn't the MD of GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) advise the forum "Meet the Manager" that they were in the process of arranging with Hitachi better availability of IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan))'s!

[grahame]

Didn't the MD of GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) advise the forum "Meet the Manager" that they were in the process of arranging with Hitachi better availability of IET^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan))'s!

I'm not sure if it was at our "Meet the Manager" but I have heard that said.  But then more are needed now that the HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) have been reduced to just three daily diagrams.

[GBM]

I'm not sure if it was at our "Meet the Manager" but I have heard that said.  But then more are needed now that the HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) have been reduced to just three daily diagrams.

Apologies, yes. Or no. It wasn't here, but on someone's vlog - Mark , and two other gents talking about trains.

[TaplowGreen]

Westbury to Plymouth in a Turbo^▸ (Class 165 and 166 trains used on Thames Valley services)??? Ouch.


17:36 London Paddington to Plymouth due 21:25
17:36 London Paddington to Plymouth due 21:25 will be reinstated.

It will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at London Paddington, Reading, Newbury and Pewsey.

This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 9.

 First class not available. Catering is not available. There are no reservations on this service. Toilet facilities are reduced. Disabled toilet facilities are reduced.

[Timmer]

Westbury to Plymouth in a Turbo^▸ (Class 165 and 166 trains used on Thames Valley services)??? Ouch.

Not ideal no. But fair play to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) for able to provide something for travellers from Westbury onwards.

Being a Turbo, there will of course be first class accommodation; just declassified.

[IndustryInsider]

And Turbos^▸ (Class 165 and 166 trains used on Thames Valley services) routinely cover much longer trips such as Cardiff<>Portsmouth of course.

[TaplowGreen]

Westbury to Plymouth in a Turbo^▸ (Class 165 and 166 trains used on Thames Valley services)??? Ouch.

Not ideal no. But fair play to GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) for able to provide something for travellers from Westbury onwards.

Being a Turbo, there will of course be first class accommodation; just declassified.

Of course. One can only hope that said travellers were suitably grateful.

[bobm]

Was it even three coaches or was it swapped for two on the way?  I am told it was 150 248 that arrived at Plymouth.

[bobm]

Answering my own question.  Looking at Realtime Trains it was 166 207 as far as Exeter St Davids and then 150 248 forward from there.   Thinking about it, are turbos cleared on the main line past Newton Abbot?