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« on: October 02, 2021, 08:14:26 »
Rather worrying - air quality on some diesel trains worse than standing by the side of the road!

"The highest level of nitrogen dioxide was on a Hitachi Class 800 train between London Paddington and Bristol Temple Meads".

https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/2021/09/29/rssb-research-exposes-poor-air-quality-on-diesel-trains?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2021, 08:47:51 »
Ssh. Don't tell broadgage! Lips sealed Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2021, 10:24:55 »
This same topic was discussed over on the IET▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) thread a couple of weeks back.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2021, 13:23:49 »
Quote from: bignosemac on October 02, 2021, 08:47:51
Ssh. Don't tell broadgage! Lips sealed Tongue

Already well aware thanks. A lesser issue than train length/availability and facilities.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2021, 13:57:52 »
Quote from: broadgage on October 02, 2021, 13:23:49
A lesser issue than train length/availability and facilities.

Not if you're prone to respiratory ailments.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2021, 14:17:22 »
Quote from: broadgage on October 02, 2021, 13:23:49
Quote from: bignosemac on October 02, 2021, 08:47:51
Ssh. Don't tell broadgage! Lips sealed Tongue

Already well aware thanks. A lesser issue than train length/availability and facilities.

Eh? Which "facilities" are more important than the quality of the air you're breathing?
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2021, 14:37:24 »
Quote from: TaplowGreen on October 02, 2021, 14:17:22
Quote from: broadgage on October 02, 2021, 13:23:49
Quote from: bignosemac on October 02, 2021, 08:47:51
Ssh. Don't tell broadgage! Lips sealed Tongue

Already well aware thanks. A lesser issue than train length/availability and facilities.

Eh? Which "facilities" are more important than the quality of the air you're breathing?
Possibly the quality of the water you're drinking. But that's water, not port.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2021, 15:13:08 »
Quote from: TaplowGreen on October 02, 2021, 14:17:22
Quote from: broadgage on October 02, 2021, 13:23:49
Quote from: bignosemac on October 02, 2021, 08:47:51
Ssh. Don't tell broadgage! Lips sealed Tongue

Already well aware thanks. A lesser issue than train length/availability and facilities.

Eh? Which "facilities" are more important than the quality of the air you're breathing?

Obviously air that is seriously contaminated is a most important issue. However I am not convinced that I am exposed to any significant health risks from the air on board trains.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2021, 15:20:25 »
Quote from: broadgage on October 02, 2021, 15:13:08
However I am not convinced that I am exposed to any significant health risks from the air on board trains.

Sit next to me after I've consumed a chicken madras with a cauliflower bhaji side!
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2021, 15:31:20 »
Quote from: bignosemac on October 02, 2021, 15:20:25
Quote from: broadgage on October 02, 2021, 15:13:08
However I am not convinced that I am exposed to any significant health risks from the air on board trains.

Sit next to me after I've consumed a chicken madras with a cauliflower bhaji side!

I'd take that over Nitrogen dioxide!  Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2021, 19:34:37 »
Give BNM some whipped cream and you could take it over nitrous oxide...
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