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« on: January 10, 2022, 23:45:24 »

When was the first Ticket Vending Machine introduced?  I don't know - but I did find an old forum thread started 10 years ago today - on 11th January 2012, with John pointing out that they were still very much "average weather only" machines - which were not usable in very cold weather, very bright weather, or in the rain.  Those issues sound familiar ever to this day - and from this morning I can add "in the dark" - it's a good job I knew what the unlit buttons are on the credit card pad do and how they are layed out.



Early TVMs (Ticket Vending Machine) - such as the London Underground one pictured - were simple one where the put in your money to the machine for the correct price in a line.   I can recall them marked 3d and 4d and 6d for central London journeys.  By the time the one pictured had been brought into use, inflation had driven the price up to 40p (and there was a 70p machine next to it) but the mechanism was simple - in essence they were queue busters for the ticket office, selling only the most popular journey and leaving more complex sales for the human behind the window.

TVMs still have many characteristics of the queue-busting old days.  They still sell much less than a full range of tickets, they still require you to be somewhat knoweldgable about your journey, and they'll still fail to operate properly in the wrong weather of at the wrong time of day. There is a difference in that the safety net of the manned ticket office has largely gone, replaced but not in all aspects by online sales.
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2022, 10:26:52 »

A former London Underground manager (the late and much respected Mike Horne) refers in an article about Automatic Fare Collection to a basic passenger operated ticket machine from 1904.  The sloping type pictured by Grahame apparently originated in 1937, and the reference to Zone 1 shows they lasted well into the 1980s though much-upgraded internally.  No touch screens then of course, and I think even the "40p" was printed onto the back of the glass (possibly a paper insert?), which had to be replaced whenever fares changed.

The article can be downloaded from http://www.metadyne.co.uk/AFC.html.  I suspect other parts of his website - maintained in his memory - may be of interest to some Coffee Shop members.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2022, 17:28:46 »

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The article can be downloaded from http://www.metadyne.co.uk/AFC.html.

The name, Metadyne, in the website brings back memories of wrestling with such things in Centurion tanks. The Chieftain had more firepower, pity about the British Leyland powerpack which had a very short life before replacement. The "Cent" just kept going, Rolls-Royce Meteorite engine, a modified Merlin engine.
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