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« on: February 22, 2023, 14:44:05 »
Made known by GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) during yesterday's Devon & Cornwall Local Transport forum was that they will be running more 4 car 158s on the Cardiff - Portsmouth services from May. Anyone know how this will be achieved? For instance does it mean that some 3 car 158s we be reformed into 2 car units. Possible end of 3 car 158s on the Tarka▸ (Line from Barnstaple to Exeter) Line?
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2023, 15:12:37 »
Quote from: TJ on February 22, 2023, 14:44:05
Made known by GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) during yesterday's Devon & Cornwall Local Transport forum was that they will be running more 4 car 158s on the Cardiff - Portsmouth services from May. Anyone know how this will be achieved? For instance does it mean that some 3 car 158s we be reformed into 2 car units. Possible end of 3 car 158s on the Tarka▸ (Line from Barnstaple to Exeter) Line?

When are Transport for Wales releasing 158s?
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2023, 21:51:47 »
Quote from: TJ on February 22, 2023, 14:44:05
Made known by GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) during yesterday's Devon & Cornwall Local Transport forum was that they will be running more 4 car 158s on the Cardiff - Portsmouth services from May. Anyone know how this will be achieved? For instance does it mean that some 3 car 158s we be reformed into 2 car units. Possible end of 3 car 158s on the Tarka▸ (Line from Barnstaple to Exeter) Line?
I just had a feeling that they would be coming back. Not that they have ever really left with 2-3 daily diagrams being 158 operated the norm.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2023, 22:39:50 »
Quote from: grahame on February 22, 2023, 15:12:37

When are Transport for Wales releasing 158s?

No inside information, but I can't see it being any time soon. From what I've read the 175s will be the first to leave TfW, and overall stock availability still seems quite tight. And the 158s with their attachment to the Cambrian lines and the amount of splitting and attaching that creates a tangled web of diagrams for the 197s to take over.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2023, 23:30:00 »
I worked out from Real Time Trains what's happening in May 2023 ... and prepared a summary for this evenings's WWRUG» (West Wiltshire Rail Users Group - about) meeting - just a couple of slides.  I checked them for accuracy with GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) this afternoon - updates as per their additional feedback prior to the meeting.  Now posted to WWRUG pages at https://www.facebook.com/groups/wwrug/posts/1010154083434711/ and also mirrored on our site within the whole of my presentation for this evening.

There are some really good winners in there on the boundary of the WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about) area and as a result of the Bristol Metro.  And it has moved on from being validated by Network Rail to being at the following stage which is DfT» (Department for Transport - about) signoff.  As part of the Bristol Metro project, not funded by the DfT, this has been characterised to me as being quite close to a formality.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2025, 17:28:53 »
The idea of 4car 158s has fallen apart.

Today 1F25 16:27 and 1F27 17:27 Cardiff - Portsmouth (the busy peak hour workings) are both reduced to just a 2car unit

Earlier 1F18 from Portsmouth conked out at Fareham and continued to Bristol as empty 5F18
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2025, 17:30:12 »
Not another temporary casualty of Cheltenham Festival?
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