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09:11 Penzance to London Paddington
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09:48 Paignton to Exmouth
09:55 Exmouth to Paignton
10:02 London Paddington to Penzance
10:15 Penzance to London Paddington
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11:24 Exmouth to Paignton
11:53 Paignton to Exmouth
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13:20 Paignton to Exmouth
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« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2023, 19:35:37 »

Looks like that is for internal consumption TG I trust you have permission given to share?
Paul Clifton has announced it on X
https://x.com/paulcliftonbbc/status/1734608936316404020?s=61
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« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2023, 20:32:58 »

A brief, but lucrative appointment.  Perhaps the ability to fly around the country at the expense of the taxpayer meant she took her eye off the ball when it came to the railway......I'm sure that money could have been better spent....

https://www.railtech.com/all/2023/08/08/uk-industry-deeply-frustrated-by-network-rail-air-travel-policy/
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2024, 16:36:37 »

True.  But I don’t think any GWR (Great Western Railway) trains were left without power and toilets, which makes a big difference.

Too right this does. Do we know the split of failed trains by TOC (Train Operating Company) on this incident? However long it takes (within reason), a train with power & toilets is better than any evacuation until eventual rescue. So just TfL» (Transport for London - about) services then?

I'm surprised however that the power wasn't switched off.
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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2024, 16:40:51 »

True.  But I don’t think any GWR (Great Western Railway) trains were left without power and toilets, which makes a big difference.

Too right this does. Do we know the split of failed trains by TOC (Train Operating Company) on this incident? However long it takes (within reason), a train with power & toilets is better than any evacuation until eventual rescue. So just TfL» (Transport for London - about) services then?

I'm surprised however that the power wasn't switched off.

The Class 800's have diesel engines, so can self power,

The GWR class 387 if there were in the effected area would have the same problem as the TfL Class 345
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2024, 18:08:06 »

I think there were:

The original train that got snared near Acton, and another that left Reading a little after that and got to Stockley Junction and hung about for ages before going back. Both had 80xs auxiliary power from their own engines.

Two HEx 387s, operated by GWR (Great Western Railway), which happened to be close to Acton when power was lost. That should have made it relatively easy to get to them quickly, perhaps using the same staff for both, and keeping in touch with those near the first train (and Andrew Haines?).

All the other trains were TfL» (Transport for London - about)'s 345s, spread out over the route - five, as I recall. Getting to all of those was the big challenge. I'm not sure how much TfL's own staff were able to contribute to the process.

Of course if it wasn't a GWR strike day there would have been more than two of their services.
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« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2024, 18:50:59 »

I think there were:

The original train that got snared near Acton, and another that left Reading a little after that and got to Stockley Junction and hung about for ages before going back. Both had 80xs auxiliary power from their own engines.

Two HEx 387s, operated by GWR (Great Western Railway), which happened to be close to Acton when power was lost. That should have made it relatively easy to get to them quickly, perhaps using the same staff for both, and keeping in touch with those near the first train (and Andrew Haines?).

All the other trains were TfL» (Transport for London - about)'s 345s, spread out over the route - five, as I recall. Getting to all of those was the big challenge. I'm not sure how much TfL's own staff were able to contribute to the process.

Of course if it wasn't a GWR strike day there would have been more than two of their services.

Once the location of the de-wirement was known the isolation could have been shorten back, trains could have then at east moved to the next station or set back to one. 
The limiting factor preventing the Electrical Control Room from shortening back remotely is not all of the required remotely controlled earthing devices between Paddington and Maidenhead have been fully commissioned as yet, therefore the Earthing would need to be done manually by the OLE (Overhead Line Equipment, more often "OHLE") Maintainenance teams which takes time.

It is a requirement under an emergency isolation of the 25kV OLE the power is discharged between Neutral Sections, until an isolation and Earthing is done in the local area of the incident. Neutral Sections are located at Maidenhead and Royal Oak (Elizabeth Lines)
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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2024, 19:00:49 »

In its previous guise (as Railtrack) costs got seriously out of control without addressing long term problems.  Now as a public body under a government that believes in "small government" of course it is going to fail because they wish to prove - despite the evidence of history - that only private sector can deliver value for money. That is why GBR (Great British Railways) is on hold. To assist them in this they get economists to do crude comparisons with other railways that are not as densely trafficked, have adequate diversionary routes and which (I suspect) don't have to pay operators for disruption during engineering work.  So NR» (Network Rail - home page) has to do in short night and weekend possessions what other railways can do more efficiently in the daytime.
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