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13:10 Penzance to London Paddington
15:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
15:58 Cardiff Central to Taunton
16:02 Westbury to Gloucester
16:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
16:27 Exeter St Davids to Penzance
16:29 Gatwick Airport to Reading
16:30 London Paddington to Taunton
16:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Foregate Street
16:46 Avonmouth to Weston-Super-Mare
16:50 London Paddington to Hereford
16:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
17:00 Oxford to London Paddington
17:00 Great Malvern to London Paddington
17:06 Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads
17:08 Gloucester to Weymouth
17:14 Exeter St Davids to Penzance
17:15 Penzance to Plymouth
17:23 Basingstoke to Reading
17:29 Gatwick Airport to Reading
17:32 Exeter Central to Okehampton
17:34 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
17:35 Swindon to Westbury
17:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Worcester Foregate Street
17:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
18:00 Oxford to London Paddington
18:07 Reading to Basingstoke
18:08 Gloucester to Westbury
18:10 Weston-Super-Mare to Severn Beach
18:16 Taunton to Cardiff Central
18:24 Reading to Gatwick Airport
18:25 Oxford to Banbury
18:27 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
18:30 Okehampton to Exeter St Davids
18:35 Westbury to Swindon
18:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Great Malvern
18:52 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
18:53 Basingstoke to Reading
19:00 Banbury to Oxford
19:00 Oxford to London Paddington
19:08 Gloucester to Bristol Temple Meads
19:19 Carmarthen to Swansea
19:24 Reading to Gatwick Airport
19:32 Reading to Basingstoke
19:33 Exeter St Davids to Okehampton
19:34 Plymouth to Penzance
19:44 Swindon to Westbury
19:50 Worcester Foregate Street to Bristol Temple Meads
19:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
20:03 Bristol Temple Meads to Filton Abbey Wood
20:05 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
20:23 Basingstoke to Reading
20:51 Filton Abbey Wood to Bristol Temple Meads
20:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
21:09 Gloucester to Bristol Temple Meads
21:23 Oxford to Banbury
21:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Westbury
21:28 Great Malvern to Bristol Temple Meads
22:04 Banbury to Didcot Parkway
22:12 Swindon to Westbury
22:24 Okehampton to Exeter St Davids
23:20 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
13/07/25 08:01 Weymouth to Cardiff Central
13/07/25 09:00 Westbury to Weymouth
13/07/25 09:08 Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth
13/07/25 10:38 Weymouth to Swindon
13/07/25 11:32 Swindon to Weymouth
13/07/25 13:32 Swindon to Weymouth
13/07/25 14:05 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads
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13/07/25 17:53 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads
13/07/25 20:11 Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads
13/07/25 20:49 Bristol Temple Meads to Weymouth
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12:03 London Paddington to Penzance
13:03 London Paddington to Penzance
14:18 London Paddington to Carmarthen
14:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
14:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour
15:08 Gloucester to Weymouth
15:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
15:30 Weymouth to Gloucester
16:08 Gloucester to Weymouth
16:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
16:45 Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury
17:12 Bristol Temple Meads to Severn Beach
17:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
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« Reply #90 on: April 12, 2025, 21:14:23 »

I knew we could rely on you. The Beaufort scale of train carriage loading.

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« Reply #91 on: April 13, 2025, 08:47:02 »

Hmm - I think 'Rammed' = 110% plus....so full & standing

Got me thinking - load definitions

0 to less than 5% - "Fresh Air"
5% to less than 15% - "Light"
15% to less than 25% - "Quiet"
25% to less than 50% - "Comfy"
50% to less thsn 80% - "Busy"
80% to less than 95% - "Nesting / Nearly Every Seat Taken"
95% to less than 110% - "Full and Standing"
110% to less than 125% - "Rammed"
125% to less than 150% - "Stuffed"
Over 150% - "Stupid"

$64,000 - by a seat being occupied, are we counting bums, or bums and bags?


Are you including First Class seats in those figures. If so, anything above 80% could easily include full and standing in Second Class.

Which leads me to the question: At what point does a train manager decide to allow standard class passengers occupy first class seats?
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« Reply #92 on: April 13, 2025, 09:58:52 »

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The Beaufort scale of train carriage loading.

This could also have Beaufort-like descriptions of what to look for to avoid having to count seats (like the "white horses begin to appear on waves at sea" or "some trees lose branches" notes you used to see).

Suggestions - for "Busy" - "passengers begin asking anyone with bags on seat to move them or saying "is anyone sitting there"?

For "nesting/nearly every seat taken" - "Announcements made that there are still a few seats available at the front/back of the train"

For "full and standing" - "on-board train staff no longer walk along the train, anyone with a bicycle in a vestibule gets black looks from fellow passengers".

"Stuffed" - "Between Paddington and Reading".
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« Reply #93 on: April 13, 2025, 09:59:15 »

Which leads me to the question: At what point does a train manager decide to allow standard class passengers occupy first class seats?

Hardly ever in these days of bargain advance first class fares.  First class occupancy, percentage of seats wise, is often the same or even more than standard class on many trains.
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