Guest locomotive / running on the wrong lines

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[grahame]

I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small).  And I see Romney Hythe and Dymchurch locos on the Bure Valley and on the Ravenglass and Eskdale.

Guest locomotives help, I suppose, bring back for another ride (and another wallet extraction) people who have become too familiar with the day to day options but ... are they right?   Am I too much of a purist to be put off by Fenchurch's escapades (to me, would be OK on Isle of Wight ) or is in fine and dandy?

[Phantom]

A plus point has to be that people get to see an engine that they wouldn't normally see

[Witham Bobby]

I see pictures of "Fenchurch" - a locomotive I associate with the Bluebell - hauling trains on the West Somerset Railway at present and she looks so out of place (and small). 

Back in the early 1970s, Butlins at Minehead were having a clear out, and "Duchess of Hamilton" was donated to the NRM^» (National Railway Museum, at York and Shildon - about) (and, in November 1975, became the final BR^▸ (British Rail(ways)) train movement on the branch, as she was towed away to Swindon by a Class 25) and the diminutive Stroudley "Terrier" "Stepney" was donated to the WSR^▸ (West Somerset Railway - heritage line between Minehead and Bishops Lydeard).  There was a fanciful idea to return the loco to service, but that didn't happen.  She was used, in 1979, as a smoking prop for a BBC2 telly drama though, thanks to a smoke bomb from BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) special effects department, and a shove from another loco

So there is a precedent for a Terrier on the Minehead Branch

[grahame]

Back in the early 1970s, Butlins at Minehead were having a clear out, and "Duchess of Hamilton" was donated to the NRM^» (National Railway Museum, at York and Shildon - about) (and, in November 1975, became the final BR^▸ (British Rail(ways)) train movement on the branch, as she was towed away to Swindon by a Class 25) and the diminutive Stroudley "Terrier" "Stepney" was donated to the WSR^▸ (West Somerset Railway - heritage line between Minehead and Bishops Lydeard).  There was a fanciful idea to return the loco to service, but that didn't happen.  She was used, in 1979, as a smoking prop for a BBC2 telly drama though, thanks to a smoke bomb from BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) special effects department, and a shove from another loco

So there is a precedent for a Terrier on the Minehead Branch

?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.

But ... I might see the earlier trip as another guest engine appearance and not anything like an "in regular traffic" type use.  It leads towards the question "at what point does a guest cease to be a guest and become a regular part of he family" ... which we could also ask about the S&D^▸ (Somerset & Dorset Joint Railway) 2-8-0s to Minehead.

[grahame]

?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.

Research suggests that the Minehead engine was No. 78 (Knowle) rather than No. 55 (Stepney)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LB%26SCR_A1_class_locomotives

[Witham Bobby]

?  - I thought that Stepney was another Bluebell engine right from the start, and Wikipedia seems to confirm that.

Research suggests that the Minehead engine was No. 78 (Knowle) rather than No. 55 (Stepney)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LB%26SCR_A1_class_locomotives

You're right.  My memory isn't what it was.  Thank you

[Andy]

It's good for the railways to be able to have a fresh face in their line-up, and a visiting loco gets to be a star during an event or for a season. Smaller and fledgling railways who don't have a regular ex-big railway loco can finance a visitor to raise their profile, too.


That said, seeing a GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) loco in a GWR setting or a diesel hydraulic on its home turf is special...

[PhilWakely]

I appreciate that this topic relates to visiting locomotives on heritage lines, but it is very disappointing to see mainline steam railtours using locomotives from other BR^▸ (British Rail(ways)) Regions. I know it is down to ownership and where the locos are based, but why use ex-LMS^▸ (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948) or ex-SR^▸ (Southern Railway / Southern Region / Scot Rail / Scottish Region (rather confusing - it depends on the context)) locos on the likes of the Royal Duchy or Torbay Express when there are ex-GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) locomotives available?

A couple of years ago, an 'Atlantic Coast Express' commemoration railtour from London Waterloo to Exeter St David's via Salisbury and Yeovil Junction was hauled by a Black 5, whilst a Merchant Navy was being used on a Settle and Carlisle railtour!