175s to GWR

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[REVUpminster]

Looks like the 175s are coming to Laira plus the two simulators. The 158s at Exeter to go to Bristol.

[anthony215]

Looks like the 175s are coming to Laira plus the two simulators. The 158s at Exeter to go to Bristol.

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) to get all the class 175s.  It be great to see them in service they are good units.

[anthony215]

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) recruiting engineers for the class 175s.

Heard 1 unit is due to make its way down to Laira  later next month

[UstiImmigrunt]

Yet more hand me downs and cast offs being used by the West side of the business.

Statement of fact.

The part of the former SW&W which eventually became Wessex Trains is the only TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) from 1994 that has never had any brand new rolling stock built for them. EVER!

Other companies cast offs, 150/1s and 175s.
Redeployed stock Turbos.
And the IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) on the Cardiff WofE services which they were never designed for or originally planned to be used on.

[RichardB]

Yet more hand me downs and cast offs being used by the West side of the business.

Statement of fact.

The part of the former SW&W which eventually became Wessex Trains is the only TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) from 1994 that has never had any brand new rolling stock built for them. EVER!

Other companies cast offs, 150/1s and 175s.
Redeployed stock Turbos.
And the IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) on the Cardiff WofE services which they were never designed for or originally planned to be used on.

We are where we are.  The long term replacements for the 150s, 158s and 166s still look to be five years away.  If the 175s do come, that will help in the meantime.  Not a cheap option but what else can be done?   The only option available right now not to use IETs on the Cardiff - Penzances is to withdraw much of the service because, currently, there is nothing else to run it.  No-one wants that.

The 175s - if they come - will allow the IETs to go back to main line work and also allow much else too.

[grahame]

Personal view - to me the age of a train does not matter.

If it is reliable to run an appropriate advertised timetable, safe, clean, comfortable and affordable that suits me.

[LiskeardRich]

Yet more hand me downs and cast offs being used by the West side of the business.

Statement of fact.

The part of the former SW&W which eventually became Wessex Trains is the only TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) from 1994 that has never had any brand new rolling stock built for them. EVER!

Other companies cast offs, 150/1s and 175s.
Redeployed stock Turbos.
And the IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) on the Cardiff WofE services which they were never designed for or originally planned to be used on.

We are where we are.  The long term replacements for the 150s, 158s and 166s still look to be five years away.  If the 175s do come, that will help in the meantime.  Not a cheap option but what else can be done?   The only option available right now not to use IETs on the Cardiff - Penzances is to withdraw much of the service because, currently, there is nothing else to run it.  No-one wants that.

The 175s - if they come - will allow the IETs to go back to main line work and also allow much else too.

As we’re in the rumour mill (despite 175s actually coming so not a rumour),according to a GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) employee friend the mess room rumour is Penzance to Cardiff will be split at Exeter once the 175s arrive.
175s working Exeter to Penzance, Falmouth branch and Newquay branch.

[grahame]

As we’re in the rumour mill (despite 175s actually coming so not a rumour),according to a GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) employee friend the mess room rumour is Penzance to Cardiff will be split at Exeter once the 175s arrive.
175s working Exeter to Penzance, Falmouth branch and Newquay branch.

I was - err - thinking of moving this thread from the Rumour Mill into a public area - the "Rumour Mill" was set up for when we saw just a whiff of smoke and suspected a frame and clearly it's more than that now.

Suggestion - unless anyone objects I will move this tomorrow (Sunday 8th) morning - I see nothing that should be a secret, nor could it it now be suggested that the forum is spreading significant rumours; sure, there are some things to be confirmed and like 769s to Gatwick or new trains from Cardiff to Portsmouth, well founded plans can change.

[RichardB]

Yet more hand me downs and cast offs being used by the West side of the business.

Statement of fact.

The part of the former SW&W which eventually became Wessex Trains is the only TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) from 1994 that has never had any brand new rolling stock built for them. EVER!

Other companies cast offs, 150/1s and 175s.
Redeployed stock Turbos.
And the IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) on the Cardiff WofE services which they were never designed for or originally planned to be used on.

We are where we are.  The long term replacements for the 150s, 158s and 166s still look to be five years away.  If the 175s do come, that will help in the meantime.  Not a cheap option but what else can be done?   The only option available right now not to use IETs on the Cardiff - Penzances is to withdraw much of the service because, currently, there is nothing else to run it.  No-one wants that.

The 175s - if they come - will allow the IETs to go back to main line work and also allow much else too.

As we’re in the rumour mill (despite 175s actually coming so not a rumour),according to a GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) employee friend the mess room rumour is Penzance to Cardiff will be split at Exeter once the 175s arrive.
175s working Exeter to Penzance, Falmouth branch and Newquay branch.

I'm concerned that GWR top brass are saying the deal hasn't yet been agreed by the DfT^» (Department for Transport - about).   

[RichardB]

As we’re in the rumour mill (despite 175s actually coming so not a rumour),according to a GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) employee friend the mess room rumour is Penzance to Cardiff will be split at Exeter once the 175s arrive.
175s working Exeter to Penzance, Falmouth branch and Newquay branch.

I was - err - thinking of moving this thread from the Rumour Mill into a public area - the "Rumour Mill" was set up for when we saw just a whiff of smoke and suspected a frame and clearly it's more than that now.

Suggestion - unless anyone objects I will move this tomorrow (Sunday 8th) morning - I see nothing that should be a secret, nor could it it now be suggested that the forum is spreading significant rumours; sure, there are some things to be confirmed and like 769s to Gatwick or new trains from Cardiff to Portsmouth, well founded plans can change.

It's a lot more than a rumour so I agree, Graham.  As we've heard from several posters, GWR are putting arrangements in place for the 175s in the expectation that the deal will be agreed.

[LiskeardRich]

Yet more hand me downs and cast offs being used by the West side of the business.

Statement of fact.

The part of the former SW&W which eventually became Wessex Trains is the only TOC^▸ (Train Operating Company) from 1994 that has never had any brand new rolling stock built for them. EVER!

Other companies cast offs, 150/1s and 175s.
Redeployed stock Turbos.
And the IETs^▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) on the Cardiff WofE services which they were never designed for or originally planned to be used on.

We are where we are.  The long term replacements for the 150s, 158s and 166s still look to be five years away.  If the 175s do come, that will help in the meantime.  Not a cheap option but what else can be done?   The only option available right now not to use IETs on the Cardiff - Penzances is to withdraw much of the service because, currently, there is nothing else to run it.  No-one wants that.

The 175s - if they come - will allow the IETs to go back to main line work and also allow much else too.

As we’re in the rumour mill (despite 175s actually coming so not a rumour),according to a GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) employee friend the mess room rumour is Penzance to Cardiff will be split at Exeter once the 175s arrive.
175s working Exeter to Penzance, Falmouth branch and Newquay branch.

I'm concerned that GWR top brass are saying the deal hasn't yet been agreed by the DfT^» (Department for Transport - about).   

GWR are recruiting class 175 specific staff on their recruitment page, which makes me think they’re a pretty much done deal

[Chris from Nailsea]

I was - err - thinking of moving this thread from the Rumour Mill into a public area - the "Rumour Mill" was set up for when we saw just a whiff of smoke and suspected a flame and clearly it's more than that now.

Suggestion - unless anyone objects I will move this tomorrow (Sunday 8th) morning - I see nothing that should be a secret ...

As readers of the Coffee Shop forum will have seen, I've got some serious 'previous' for moving topics - but purely in the interests of housekeeping and ease of future reference.

However, in this case, if grahame is happy to do it, I'll leave this one to him.  That way, if it even possibly turns out to be the wrong call, he'll get the blame, not me.

CfN 

[grahame]

As readers of the Coffee Shop forum will have seen, I've got some serious 'previous' for moving topics - but purely in the interests of housekeeping and ease of future reference.

However, in this case, if grahame is happy to do it, I'll leave this one to him.  That way, if it even possibly turns out to be the wrong call, he'll get the blame, not me.

CfN 

I have given 24 hours notice - purely because it's a move from a restricted to a private area to a public one and so everyone who's posted needs an opportunity to object.    Whichever of us wakes first in the morning, Chris.

[a-driver]

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) are recruiting class 175 specific staff on their recruitment page, which makes me think they’re a pretty much done deal

It is a done deal, just being held up by “red tape”.

GWR should get their first look at a 175 very soon at Landore. 

[anthony215]

GWR^▸ (Great Western Railway) are recruiting class 175 specific staff on their recruitment page, which makes me think they’re a pretty much done deal

It is a done deal, just being held up by “red tape”.

GWR should get their first look at a 175 very soon at Landore. 

175101 was taken there the other day I believe it's the last one due to go there