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« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2024, 18:59:09 »

1Z99 has rescued 1C82 and is now on the way to Newton Abbot.   A second rescue unit is now closing in on 2C77.
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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2024, 20:49:52 »

2Z25 ( a pair of class 150s) ran NTA (Newton Abbott station) to Dawlish Warren (shunting over the crossover west of Teignmouth in order to run wrong line past the failed IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan))). It then returned to NTA.

It looks like the unit that rescued the first train, dragging it to NTA, has now been re-headcoded as 2Z77, so perhaps it it what will rescue 2C77.

It appears 2C77 is actually in Dawlish Station (can see it on the beachcams!). Wonder what the passengers have been doing?

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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2024, 20:58:03 »

Looks like any who stuck it out were put on the double-150s at Dawlish and taken to Newton Abbot where they could cross platform transfer to 2Z77 to continue west.   I suspect if that unit had been going to rescue 2C77 it would be 1Z..
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« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2024, 21:04:10 »

Is someone in control reading this thread? The headcode has now changed to 1Z99  Shocked
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« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2024, 21:13:08 »

Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2024, 21:43:53 »

Embarrassing that a 30+ year old train has to rescue passengers off a train less than five years old  Roll Eyes

Giving DFT (Department for Transport) etc more ammo to use against Hitachi.  Off topic but any future train orders I'd be really shocked if Hitachi got on the list
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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2024, 22:14:30 »

I'm really surprised that with what's fallen down here today that the met office hasn't named this storm.

Some reports of passengers stuck at Exeter St Davids and Plymouth. No RR being offered.

According to the MetOffice's dynamic map forecasts luckily the recovery operation can now start winds have dropped and no more appreciable rainfall is due in the coming days.
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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2024, 22:52:18 »

The 5-car IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) rescue train arrived at Dawlish 21:52. Appeared to couple up at 22:05.

I'm unable to speculate on whatever was happening in the following minutes. The weather made working conditions unpleasant!

The failed 2C77 finally on the move at 22:38.

As it arrived at Dawlish at 15:59, that's an impressive 6 hours 39 minutes stationary.

Two trains formed of Voyager (22x) units have passed the failed train this evening, heading towards Plymouth. The 1C96 from Paddington looks like it might actually make it to Plymouth, while the final down service is another Voyager from Gloucester.

In the up direction, the last train from Plymouth to reach Exeter or beyond seems to have been the 15:02 departure.
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2024, 07:05:28 »

Suspect there will be a few of these today. I had 4 friends (2 couples) trying to get to Plymouth from Exeter late afternoon/evening, one managed to get on a bus, the others booked into a hotel and have been advised to send details/receipts to GWR (Great Western Railway).

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/14-month-old-baby-among-9591164?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727651345

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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2024, 10:09:58 »

Suspect there will be a few of these today. I had 4 friends (2 couples) trying to get to Plymouth from Exeter late afternoon/evening, one managed to get on a bus, the others booked into a hotel and have been advised to send details/receipts to GWR (Great Western Railway).

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/local-news/14-month-old-baby-among-9591164?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1727651345



Some newspaper reports and stories need to be taken with a pinch of salt.  You get those who got on replacement buses or into a taxi and then there’s those at the same location who claim to have been left “stranded”.  I suppose with a 14-month old baby it’s a long journey by road when you don’t have a car seat perhaps and the parents rightfully may have had safety concerns?
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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2024, 12:56:32 »

There's a video from coastal camera footage arrived in my You Tube feed showing the rescue of the broken down train at Dawlish - link here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9YYWmXQsU

It seems that this was an unfortunate coincidence of high spring tides around the autumn equinox and strong SE winds. Might a precautionary suspension of Inter-city services and shuttle with sprinters be a good idea as a standing contingency plan? No doubt those in the business will know if that's possible.
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2024, 13:30:51 »

There's a video from coastal camera footage arrived in my You Tube feed showing the rescue of the broken down train at Dawlish - link here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB9YYWmXQsU

It seems that this was an unfortunate coincidence of high spring tides around the autumn equinox and strong SE winds. Might a precautionary suspension of Inter-city services and shuttle with sprinters be a good idea as a standing contingency plan? No doubt those in the business will know if that's possible.

The equinox spring tides were about 8-9 days ago and nearly a metre higher than yesterday. That would have been interesting!!!
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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2024, 15:38:51 »

24 hours after it failed on the seawall yesterday, the nine car IET (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) (802108) departed Newton Abbot a short while ago to head to North Pole depot via London Paddington.   

Following its rescue yesterday it had been left on Platform 3 at Newton Abbot causing some congestion today.
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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2024, 16:57:18 »

Following its rescue yesterday it had been left on Platform 3 at Newton Abbot causing some congestion today.

Not the first time (though perhaps the first time for that particular unit). Is there a shortage of side tracks onto which trains that fail can be placed without getting in the way?
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« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2024, 08:40:30 »

Years ago, I and others doubted that the IETs (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) would cope with the well known severe conditions at Dawlish.
Supporters of the new units assured as that coping with conditions at Dawlish was an "essential requirement" and that the new trains would be fine !
When this was found not to be the case, one respected member stated that the "essential requirement" meant that the decorative finish should withstand the conditions, and not that the trains should actually function in bad weather !

ANOTHER victory for my crystal ball  Smiley

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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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