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« on: October 08, 2024, 16:07:31 » |
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More than 40 school children were in the bus when it crashed
A double-decker bus carrying more than 40 school children has crashed in County Down.
The Northern Ireland Ambulance Service (NIAS) declared it as a "major incident", but has since stood it down. It said the bus was carrying 43 school children, as well as the driver.
Four children were taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries, the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) has confirmed.
The incident happened on the Ballyblack Road East, near Carrowdore after 16:00 BST.
Translink said the bus was carrying students from Strangford College to Bangor.
In a statement, the PSNI said that NIAS treated and discharged 33 people at the scene. Several patients also self-presented at the Ulster Hospital.
Northern Ireland Fire and Rescue Service (NIFRS) deployed five fire appliances to the scene. Firefighters used specialist cutting equipment to rescue two casualties from the bus.
Pictures on social media showed the vehicle on its side in a field having left the road.
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"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2024, 16:20:34 » |
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This was yesterday. Amazingly, no one held in hospital overnight.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2024, 20:11:52 » |
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I know. That's why I included the date in the title of this topic.  |
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"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2024, 01:04:32 » |
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This was yesterday. Amazingly, no one held in hospital overnight.
School age kids are arguably the most resilient age group and withstand this sort of accident surprisingly well. Had the bus contained a similar number of pensioners or middle aged overweight people or babies, it is probable that lives would have been lost. |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2024, 12:20:57 » |
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No indication of cause at this stage, but this does of course illustrate that driving skills of professional drivers need to be high. One worry about this type of incident is that the parents will now start driving their children to school in a (possibly misguided) move to keep them safe. Given the likelihood of variable standards among those parents, on average a crash is probably more likely though with less potential for a large number of casualties.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2024, 12:03:30 » |
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Six children have been rescued after a bus they were travelling in crashed into a water-filled ditch.
Emergency crews were called to Leverington Common near Wisbech St Mary, Cambridgeshire, at about 17:15 GMT on Thursday.
The school children were evacuated from the vehicle and were not thought to be injured, police said. The driver of the bus was taken to hospital as a precaution, they added.
Eyewitness Laurence Manning said he helped the children off the bus after he heard them screaming. "We pulled each school kid out one by one and then we tended to the driver who was still in the cab," he said.
Mr Manning said he rang for the ambulance. "The roof was caved in. As we're in the bus we could hear creaks and cracks because it was sinking even more. We had to check the bus several times, it was quite scary. But when there are kids involved you just have to get them to safety. Luckily everyone was all right - few injuries but nothing serious."
A neighbour, Katie-Leigh Julian, said she looked after the children once they had been rescued. "The experience was not nice at all when it comes down to anyone, but when it's children around and there's no parents around it is heart-breaking," she said.
Cambridgeshire Police said emergency crews would remain at the scene, with surrounding roads expected to be closed "well into the evening".
The fire service said its firefighters arrived at the scene to find a bus in a ditch and they assisted the driver from the vehicle.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2025, 18:41:18 » |
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BREAKING NEWS.
A coach returning to Minehead Middle School after a day trip, with approximately 60-70 people aboard, has been involved in a road traffic collision at around 3pm on the A396 near Wheddon Cross, Somerset. Several road ambulances and an air ambulance have been at the scene. A rest centre has been set up at a nearby pub.
Ridlers, a coach hire company from Dulverton, have said one of their vehicles was involved.
The A396 is closed as I type with emergency services still at the scene.
The above details from a BBC» Points West report this evening.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2025, 20:09:54 » |
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Further updates from the BBC» What we know so far - published at 18:53
A bus carrying pupils from Minehead Middle School left the road at about 15:00 BST close to the village of Wheddon Cross on Exmoor on Thursday
Around 60 to 70 people were on board and police say a number of casualties have been taken to hospital
Most passengers were taken to a rest centre set up at a pub in Wheddon Cross
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander is receiving regular updates on the incident and at 20:02 Beacon Education MAT, which Minehead Middle School is part of, has released a statement following the bus crash. “We are working closely with the emergency services and relevant authorities following an incident this afternoon to support our pupils, families, and staff at this very difficult time," it says. We will update our school community further as soon as more information becomes available, and we kindly ask for your patience and understanding as we manage this evolving situation with care and sensitivity. |
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2025, 21:13:39 » |
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Avon & Somerset Police have just held a press conference.
One child has died. Several other passengers, including two children, have received serious injuries.
My thoughts and condolences go to all affected by this tragic incident.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2025, 22:43:15 » |
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Very sad news indeed. Thoughts and condolences to the family who lost a child this evening and to all those affected.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2025, 11:18:39 » |
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From the BBC» : Tributes outside school after child dies and 21 injured in Minehead coach crash
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Summary
One child has died and 21 people are injured after a coach returning from a school trip crashed in Exmoor, Somerset - here's what we know so far
The coach was carrying up to 70 people, many of them pupils from Minehead Middle School, when it flipped onto its roof and slid down a bank yesterday afternoon
The trust which runs the school says it is "devastated", while tributes and flowers are being left outside the grounds
Minehead Middle School and five other schools are shut today and the A396 at Cutcombe Hill is also closed
Prime Minister Keir Starmer calls the incident "heartbreaking" and sends his condolences to the families affected
(BBC article continues to be updated)
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2025, 14:02:47 » |
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Very sad, the first that I knew of this tragedy, was a phone call advising me that a routine hospital visit for tests was cancelled "due to an emergency"
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2025, 15:39:34 » |
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Very sad news. My thoughts are with the families affected
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2025, 20:30:28 » |
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This incident has been talked about quite a bit in work with some of.colleagues guessing what could have happened.
I feel.for all thos involved the driver no matter what happens I doubt will want to get behind the wheel of a bus/coach again. Speaking as a driver myself who's been involved in an accident on a.school service a few years ago luckily no.injuries except me breaking my ribs you can't help but fight an.internal battle with yourself putting the blame on yourself even when you are clearly not to blame.
I took my daughter on a coach with her school last week to folly farm and.i made sure she was buckled up with her seat belt sadly this accident has shown it could happen anytime
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2025, 20:47:56 » |
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Thank you for that insight / perspective - and also for sharing your experience and not sharing your guesses.
There is a need to for the professional to look at all the possibilities but that will move on from educated guesses to things far more informed as they examine evidence, and then come to conclusions they can share to help minimise the chance of similar incidents again. It moves from "insensitive to share" on the speculation to being "vital to share" for the future and out of respect for the boy who died, the injured (some of which we know are life changing) and all other involved directly or with friends, family, emergency and medical services.
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