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« on: November 18, 2024, 19:38:01 » |
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Geoff travels on the branch with GWR▸ MD Mark Hopwood who grew up locally - subjects covered include the line's token system and the original site of Marlow Station: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWf8LkRtgX0 |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2024, 20:09:10 » |
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That is absolutely brilliant, BBM - thanks for posting that link!  I commend this clip to all of our members and readers - and with thanks to Mark Hopwood, for his personal input. My paternal grandparents used to live in Bourne End, and when we visited, I used to travel on the Marlow Donkey. CfN. |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2024, 21:07:10 » |
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And more generally, I highly recommend subscribing to Geoff Marshall's YouTube channel. Always great content.
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"Good news for regular users of Euston Station in London! One day they will die. Then they won't have to go to Euston Station ever again." - David Mitchell
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Mark A
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2024, 11:51:57 » |
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Seeing that peak-time walk between trains for Marlow passengers, thank goodness the Bourne End buffer stops are reasonably close to the end of the rails**.
Mark
** Unfortunate that buffer stops are not a lot closer to High Wycombe. The current arrangement, it's almost as if it's a ghost from the last years of the through route, when, rather than Marlow being a branch and served from the bay, trains to the town ran to and from Maidenhead using one of Bourne End's through platforms, & High Wycombe - Bourne End being run as a shuttle.
So, the useful through route now demanded a change of trains, but I'm sure that the connections for through travellers were not arranged to inconvenience them. Does anyone have a Western Region passenger timetable for, say, 1968 or '69?
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Mark A
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2024, 12:04:54 » |
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Bourne End personal trivia. The area it serves is peppered with idiosyncracies, and not only on Mr Hopwood's railway.
It's the location used by a travelling companion for a one-off journey to work in London, and they were hopeful that on crossing the concourse at Paddington Station that they'd be asked to complete a travel survey - something that was slightly in vogue at the time.
If they *had* been asked about modes of travel during their journey to work, rather than the usual "Cycle to the station, train to Waterloo and walk", it would have been "Funicular railway, then, electric powered canoe launch down and across the river, walk to Bourne End station, then onto a train, one change onto the GW» main line to Paddington, finally Bakerloo line."
6 changes and 5 modes, a couple of which would have stretched any travel survey's tick boxes.
All on time too. :-)
Mark
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2024, 18:04:31 » |
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Does anyone have a Western Region passenger timetable for, say, 1968 or '69?
Cue grahame? |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2024, 18:43:44 » |
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Does anyone have a Western Region passenger timetable for, say, 1968 or '69?
Cue grahame? I have a 1967/68 ... which I will upload after yet ANOTHER Town Council meeting tonight - second of three this week! |
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2024, 18:49:25 » |
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There you are, Mark A: I'm just rolling on the floor laughing now. I simply knew grahame would have it! |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2024, 20:27:16 » |
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Mark A
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2024, 13:17:21 » |
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Thanks for digging those out.
Soooo... the later of those two timetables, Marlow & High Wycombe's through services to Paddington have gone. High Wycombe to Maidenhead is now a mixture of through trains & others involving a minimum 15 minute wait at Bourne End.
Saturdays, a thin but somewhat sensible timetable for High Wycombe to Bourne End, several of which run direct.
Sunday, no service High Wycombe to Bourne End (as previously). That part of the line would close at the start of May 1970.
Closing lines can become habit-forming. You wonder how close Marlow came to losing its railway.
Mark
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2024, 13:24:24 » |
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It's one of those that would be a very useful link to have now...but the cost of reinstating it isn't worth it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2024, 13:41:39 » |
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The line of route has now got housing on it....
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2024, 14:19:49 » |
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Soooo... the later of those two timetables, Marlow & High Wycombe's through services to Paddington have gone. High Wycombe to Maidenhead is now a mixture of through trains & others involving a minimum 15 minute wait at Bourne End.
Doing a Thurso ... it's actually the same same train with those 15 minutes taken up at Bourne End by the train carrying in to Marlow and coming back from there to carry on. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2024, 14:25:49 » |
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The line of route has now got housing on it....
Yes, that was my point about the cost of reinstatement being too high. Much of it, especially at the Wycombe end, has been obliterated by housing and roads and there's no sensible prospect of realignment given the topography and general density of settlements and roads in the area. Doesn't stop it occasionally being mentioned though! |
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Mark A
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2024, 15:48:40 » |
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Fast forward nearly 55 years to 2024, and does a bus service parallel the route? Yes, and seven days a week too, though it doesn't quite serve High Wycombe Station. It's not an atrocious service, hourly clockface weekdays north of Bourne End and hourly clockface on Sundays. Three buses deployed to the route on weekdays. End of service isn't particularly late, mind, but it has this in common with very very many bus services. Mark https://bustimes.org/services/37-high-wycombe-maidenhead?date=2024-11-20&service=37&service=37A&service=37B |
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