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« on: December 06, 2024, 07:53:58 » |
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BBC» reporting https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cv2g2rrjywqtFrom National Rail; Route(s) affected National Rail routes Description There is a nationwide fault with the communication system used between train drivers and signallers. As a result, services across the National Rail network may be subject to disruption this morning. Trains across the network are having to start their journeys later because of this fault and some may also be subject to cancellations or alterations. Please check before you travel, allow extra time for your journey and monitor live departure boards.
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broadgage
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2024, 08:08:52 » |
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I suspect a russian cyber attack. Such an attack on national infrastructure has been predicted for some time. Possibly aided and abetted by north korea or iran. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/23/putin-ready-to-cripple-britain-in-cyber-war/ |
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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bradshaw
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2024, 09:27:32 » |
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I am curious about the GWR▸ explanation for the cancellations on the early Weymouth service as being the result of communication problems.
The ecs from Bristol for the Yeovil to Filton Abbey Wood service was cancelled between Bristol and Westbury, problem at the depot. It started late from Westbury running to Castle Cary to form the service to Filton.
The first Westbury to Weymouth and return was cancelled - was this because the unit was taken for the Filton service?
Then the first up from Weymouth was cancelled. Was this because the crew are booked come down on the early ecs and get a taxi to Weymouth?
The cancelled services from Weymouth (0733 and 0930) have been reinstated from Bristol and Westbury respectively.
Was the initial problem the communications one and led to the other cascade?
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Richard Sims
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2024, 09:31:56 » |
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It happened following a planned Signalling Transfer Point card replacement overnight, so more likely just a hardware glitch. |
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ChrisB
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2024, 09:59:44 » |
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Only seems to affect trains leaving depots for their first run of the day - once in service, they seem to be running normally - says National Rail in an update
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TaplowGreen
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2024, 11:39:31 » |
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It happened following a planned Signalling Transfer Point card replacement overnight, so more likely just a hardware glitch. Sounds feasible.......Broadgage's theory was more fun though!  |
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2024, 17:15:31 » |
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Only seems to affect trains leaving depots for their first run of the day - once in service, they seem to be running normally - says National Rail in an update
Apparently if stopped drivers logging on. Once they had logged on using a slower, secondary, process they were fine. |
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bradshaw
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2024, 17:23:36 » |
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From Network Rail via X An overnight fault with our railway radio system in England and Wales has been traced to one of our major hubs near Stoke, which has now been fixed. From Philip Haigh on X Today’s railway problems seem to have followed overnight work to its GSMR radio network. It’s led to drivers having to enter ‘wildcard’ codes into their train systems to connect radios rather than the system doing it automatically. Takes longer than normal, hence some delays. |
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Richard Sims
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2024, 17:58:21 » |
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I am curious about the GWR▸ explanation for the cancellations on the early Weymouth service as being the result of communication problems.
The ecs from Bristol for the Yeovil to Filton Abbey Wood service was cancelled between Bristol and Westbury, problem at the depot. It started late from Westbury running to Castle Cary to form the service to Filton.
The first Westbury to Weymouth and return was cancelled - was this because the unit was taken for the Filton service?
Then the first up from Weymouth was cancelled. Was this because the crew are booked come down on the early ecs and get a taxi to Weymouth?
The cancelled services from Weymouth (0733 and 0930) have been reinstated from Bristol and Westbury respectively.
Was the initial problem the communications one and led to the other cascade?
The fault appeared to affect some areas and not others. SWT▸ were and GWR main line not. Hence Yeovil Pen Mill in Wessex was in the area affected and Castle Cary wasn't. I think! |
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2026, 12:48:19 » |
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Cancellations to services on all routes
Due to a fault with the signalling system trains have to run at reduced speed.
Train services running across the whole Great Western Railway network may be cancelled or delayed. Disruption is expected until 15:00 19/05.
Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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We have had a nationwide GSMR outage
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What are we doing about it?
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We are working with Network Rail to implement a solution. |
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TaplowGreen
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2026, 13:05:21 » |
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Didn't the same thing happen less than a fortnight ago?
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ChrisB
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2026, 16:45:51 » |
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Yep, for two or three operators. This time it was a national outage but seemed not to last more than an hour. Last time it was an over-zealous upgrade that wasn't ready. I guess it still isn't....  |
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Chris from Nailsea
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2026, 00:28:01 » |
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.
"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
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