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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2025, 20:34:57 »

I presume that no buffet is to be offered, but at least loco hauled coaches are a step up from DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit). The absence of underfloor engines is welcome.
And NOT IETS  Smiley
And if the route is ever electrified, the same coaches could be hauled by an electric loco.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2025, 23:24:50 »

These are loco hauled coaches replacing loco hauled coaches, not DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit).
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2025, 08:53:55 »

13 Mk 5A sets are being taken on to replace 4 Mk3 sets, so that is a very moot point.
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2025, 08:58:30 »

These are loco hauled coaches replacing loco hauled coaches, not DMUs (Diesel Multiple Unit).

Yes, but the modern way is that new trains should be DMUs, and preferably be shorter than those being replaced. and without a buffet, of course.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2025, 12:34:41 »

As somebody put on Facebook…

“It's quite despicable that rail services in the South will have to use cast-offs from the North. Glad this never happens t'other way round!”
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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2025, 20:35:25 »

Mk5As confirmed:

https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/more-trains-newer-trains

"We're excited to introduce our newer trains to the Chiltern network, designed with your comfort, convenience and accessibility in mind."
I expect the original designers would have probably had the TPE (Trans Pennine Express) passenger “comfort, convenience and accessibility” in mind.  Huh
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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2025, 16:09:03 »

Press release: new trains, more seats.

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https://press.chilternrailways.co.uk/news/new-chiltern-railways-trains-set-to-unlock-10-000-more-seats-a-day
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2025, 14:58:47 »

Geoff Marshall has just released another video detailing these new trains and interviews Chiltern's MD.

https://youtu.be/zNRiRtvIESU?si=ITv45dVbM87vKjkQ
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