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« on: June 04, 2025, 06:56:18 »

From The BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page)

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Billions of pounds of investment in transport infrastructure in England are set to be announced by Chancellor Rachel Reeves on Wednesday.

The money will be spent on tram, train and bus projects in mayoral authorities across the Midlands, the North and the West Country.

Good.

Looking at Wikipedia , 356 (yes, three hundred and fifty six) new stations have opened in the last 25 years - 100, 50, 98, 69 and 30 in each five year period.  Some of these have not been on National Rail lines, but many/most have. 

How have we done in Wiltshire?  ZERO.   The last new station was opened in 1937, and there's has been one solitary reopening (in 1985) of a station closed in 1966.    It looks like the new announcement is also a duck (zero) for us - we are not in a mayoral authority, even though parts of our county are very much part of the catchment area for WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about) - where the mayoral authority is slated for a headline spend
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2025, 10:38:08 »

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£800m for West of England to improve rail infrastructure, provide more frequent trains between the Brabazon industrial estate in Bristol and the city centre, and develop mass transit between Bristol, Bath, South Gloucestershire and North Somerset

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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2025, 11:33:40 »

Government announcement with the amounts and main projects by region

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/biggest-ever-investment-in-city-region-local-transport-as-chancellor-vows-the-renewal-of-britain

For West of England £800m
£150m to improve rail infrastructure across the region, including funding to support WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about)’s ambitions for increased frequency of services between Brabazon and the city centre. £200m for Mass transit development between Bristol, Bath, South Gloucestershire and North Somerset.

Doesn't say what the other £450m is for.
WECA haven't uploaded anything about it, so at moment what else is funded is a mystery.


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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2025, 11:51:33 »

I believe it's a little duller than that. Basically the reinstatement of the 2027 to 2032 Mayoral Authority funding settlement which was announced in Oct 2023 but frozen by Labour when they came into power.

It follows on from the 2022 to 2027 settlement which in the case of WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about), has mainly been bus and road focused, although there's been a fair amount of rail strategic planning with NR» (Network Rail - home page) including a study into whether Parkway to Temple Meads could be electrified for less than originally budgeted.

I'm not sure if a detailed pipeline for 2027 to 2032 is in the public domain - the main commitments I can find are reopening Portishead (MetroWest 1b) and Henbury (MetroWest 2).

Mass transit development could be something exciting, but realistically it's probably just bits like moving the busses to the north side of Temple Meads, roadworks along the A37 and A4 corridors to make the busses run faster etc.

I suspect that in the case of WECA it's PR (Public Relations) fluff rather than anything meaningful.





 
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2025, 16:03:23 »

I believe it's a little duller than that. Basically the reinstatement of the 2027 to 2032 Mayoral Authority funding settlement which was announced in Oct 2023 but frozen by Labour when they came into power.

It follows on from the 2022 to 2027 settlement which in the case of WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about), has mainly been bus and road focused, although there's been a fair amount of rail strategic planning with NR» (Network Rail - home page) including a study into whether Parkway to Temple Meads could be electrified for less than originally budgeted.

I'm not sure if a detailed pipeline for 2027 to 2032 is in the public domain - the main commitments I can find are reopening Portishead (MetroWest 1b) and Henbury (MetroWest 2).

Mass transit development could be something exciting, but realistically it's probably just bits like moving the busses to the north side of Temple Meads, roadworks along the A37 and A4 corridors to make the busses run faster etc.

I suspect that in the case of WECA it's PR (Public Relations) fluff rather than anything meaningful.


I'm hoping for more than that, although with past years in mind. The devil will be in the dtail, and there isn't much at this stage.
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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 11:03:45 »

I believe it's a little duller than that. Basically the reinstatement of the 2027 to 2032 Mayoral Authority funding settlement which was announced in Oct 2023 but frozen by Labour when they came into power.

It follows on from the 2022 to 2027 settlement which in the case of WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about), has mainly been bus and road focused, although there's been a fair amount of rail strategic planning with NR» (Network Rail - home page) including a study into whether Parkway to Temple Meads could be electrified for less than originally budgeted.

I'm not sure if a detailed pipeline for 2027 to 2032 is in the public domain - the main commitments I can find are reopening Portishead (MetroWest 1b) and Henbury (MetroWest 2).

Mass transit development could be something exciting, but realistically it's probably just bits like moving the busses to the north side of Temple Meads, roadworks along the A37 and A4 corridors to make the busses run faster etc.

I suspect that in the case of WECA it's PR (Public Relations) fluff rather than anything meaningful.


I'm hoping for more than that, although with past years in mind. The devil will be in the dtail, and there isn't much at this stage.

Perhaps I was too pessimistic?

Within that 2027 to 2032 window, we should have in the bag Portishead and Henbury reopening, five new stations and a reworked Temple Meads.

I'm not certain around the timelines but the rail/metrobus/cycling infrastructure around Brabazon looks pretty good on paper (though obviously a more frequent rail service would be better) and should be fairly transformational for the Cribbs to UWE "arc".

Support for small, incremental rail projects seem plausible - e.g. Narroways to Montpelier tunnel redoubling, Saltford, Ashton Gate, St Anne’s Park and Lockleaze station reopenings and perhaps even Filton Bank electrification. 

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« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 11:24:15 »

Nothing for Devon & Cornwall - Quelle surprise!

How about this for an idea? Since our government has decided that it can spend £15Bn, of our money, on transport projects why not complete the section of GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification between Chippenham (ish) and Bristol. A better service for passengers, Ed Miliband would be very pleased with the reduction in diesel emissions, and the NIMBY's in Bath aren't going to vote for you anyway so you can just tell them, politely, to go away.
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« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 14:01:18 »

Nothing for Devon & Cornwall - Quelle surprise!

How about this for an idea? Since our government has decided that it can spend £15Bn, of our money, on transport projects why not complete the section of GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification between Chippenham (ish) and Bristol. A better service for passengers, Ed Miliband would be very pleased with the reduction in diesel emissions, and the NIMBY's in Bath aren't going to vote for you anyway so you can just tell them, politely, to go away.

How much would it cost & how long would it take?
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« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 18:19:35 »

Modern Railways covers the Scottish rolling electrification programme in the June edition.
https://www.modernrailways.com/article/scotlands-rolling-programme-cuts-electrification-costs-26
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  the cost of electrification per kilometre in Scotland had reduced from £2.7 million to £2 million over the course of the past five years
The rolling programme was a fundamental part of the reduction.

we can do slightly better each time because we find slightly better ways of doing it. Retention of skills is absolutely critical to our ability to do that.
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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 18:33:32 »

Nothing for Devon & Cornwall - Quelle surprise!

How about this for an idea? Since our government has decided that it can spend £15Bn, of our money, on transport projects why not complete the section of GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification between Chippenham (ish) and Bristol. A better service for passengers, Ed Miliband would be very pleased with the reduction in diesel emissions, and the NIMBY's in Bath aren't going to vote for you anyway so you can just tell them, politely, to go away.

Once again I see it’s time to play whack-a-mole with the old chestnut about ‘Bath NIMBYs’ blocking GWML electrification. They didn’t. Bath Preservation Trust very rightly insisted that the OHLE (Over-Head Line Equipment (electrification via catenary)) was done in a way that didn’t disfigure their city, but they had agreed a scheme with Network Rail when the project was canned. GWML electrification wasn’t blocked by Bath NIMBY’s; Greyling did that.
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« Reply #10 on: Today at 15:06:16 »

Here's WECA» (West of England Combined Authority - about)'s press release:

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West welcomes record transport funding

Leaders across the region have today welcomed more than three-quarters of a billion pounds set to be invested in transport projects in the West. The Chancellor has announced plans to more than double investment in local transport in England’s city regions, committing to “investment in all parts of the country, not just a few.”

Around £150 million would further improve rail infrastructure across the region and support ambitions for four trains per hour across our growing suburban rail network, including between economic growth zones like Brabazon and Bristol Temple Quarter.

With the West of England Mayoral Combined Authority area already benefitting from a nearly 50% increase in funding to fix potholes this year compared to last year, we are paving the way to the future. Continued funding through transport settlements is supporting the maintenance and enhancement of roads, bridges, and active travel routes. These essential improvements – delivered through close collaboration between local councils and the Mayoral Combined Authority – are not just about upkeep; they’re enabling the long-term transformation of how people move around the region.

This news comes just a day after the opening of Bristol’s first electric bus depot in Hengrove, with electrification set to take place in Bath and Lawrence Hill next year. More than 250 new electric buses are set to serve bus passengers across our region next year. Some £200 million of the new funding from the Treasury would provide scope to improve and extend services, transform the network, and deliver an electric fleet and the associated charging infrastructure.

Significant funding, in the region of £200 million, would enable mass transit development between Bath, Bristol, South Gloucestershire, and North Somerset. Trams, an extension of the popular Metrobus services, rail, light rail, and guided buses are all currently on the table. In the autumn, a new transport vision will set out the long-term direction of travel for the West of England.

 

Welcoming the news one month after she became Mayor, Helen Godwin, the new Mayor of the West of England, said:

“Our region has a strong economy overall, but we know that congestion has held the West of England back from achieving its full potential. We’ve been stuck in the slow lane on transport for too long. Our potential additional contribution to the national economy is enormous. It’s time to invest in the West and unlock that growth.  

“I promised to work with government and get the West of England moving. Three-quarters of a billion pounds of new money for transport will do just that, as we start a new chapter for our region. Together, we need to accelerate plans to secure better buses, deliver more trains and railway stations, and give local people proper alternatives to their cars. Trams, Metrobuses, rail, light rail, and guided buses are all on the table to make that a reality.

“Over the years, as a region, we’ve talked too much about mass transit and delivered too little. It’s finally time to deliver a mass transit system that people can rely on. Working with the new government, and with genuine collaboration between local councils, it’s time for real change.”

 

Sarah Warren, Deputy Council Leader and Cabinet Member for Sustainable Bath and North East Somerset, said:

“This investment marks a turning point for sustainable transport in our region. It is a huge opportunity to deliver a cleaner, greener and more connected future that our communities deserve. From progressing mass transit options to electrifying our bus fleet across Bath & North East Somerset, this investment will help us tackle costly congestion, achieve our net zero targets, and make it easier for people to choose public transport, walking and cycling. On top of the work that’s already being achieved in B&NES, this is welcome news for our region. We look forward to working with our regional partners to deliver a transport system fit for the 21st century.”

 

Councillor Tony Dyer, Leader of Bristol City Council, said:

“This fresh investment is very welcome and allows us to finally begin to achieve the regional mass transit system we've needed for so long. Our plans are already in place to make our bus networks more available, to expand the reach and access of rail and to connect the communities of Bristol with opportunities in our city and the wider West of England. This new funding will allow us to get on with creating the transport system Bristol is crying out for.

“I look forward to working with Helen and my fellow leaders to deliver for the people in our region.”

 

Councillor Maggie Tyrrell, Leader of South Gloucestershire Council, said:

“We’re very pleased to see this significant funding coming to the West of England that will help us move towards a fully integrated public transport system that works for residents and businesses. Investment in the region’s transport infrastructure is vital to help people keep moving around the area and we need better, more reliable bus services, more trains, and a mass transit system to offer more effective and sustainable travel choices.”

 

Cllr Mike Bell, the Leader of North Somerset Council, said:

“I welcome this funding as a positive step forward for our region. It’s vital that North Somerset benefits from mass transit development, which has the potential to transform how people travel and support our transition to a greener, more connected future. I’m committed to working closely with the Mayor and our partners to improve transport, unlock growth, and ensure our local economy continues to thrive.”

 

The new government set out the record settlement to the West of England Mayoral Combined Authority through Transport for City Regions as part of the Plan for Change, ahead of next week’s Spending Review.

The West of England delivered the strongest recent growth of any combined authority area (3%, 2023). The region is also predicted to achieve double the national forecast rate of productivity growth by 2040.

I've highlighted a couple of phrases:

"...support ambitions for four trains per hour across our growing suburban rail network" is very welcome. That would mean new trains, and some infrastructure interventions. (Doubling from Narroways to Clifton Down? Quad track to Parson St?) Would you do that without electrifying? I think 'ambitions' are slightly closer to plans than 'aspirations' are, but I may be getting ahead of myself.

"Trams, an extension of the popular Metrobus services, rail, light rail, and guided buses are all currently on the table". Be nice if they stated clearly that tram trains are on the table too, as WSP took them off it - wrongly, in my humble opinion!

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