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« on: June 15, 2025, 07:55:30 »

Almost beyond belief, but thankfully no longer employed on the railway........

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/tube-driver-caught-knitting-and-watching-video-on-his-phone-while-operating-northern-line-train/ar-AA1GH8in?ocid=socialshare
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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2025, 08:09:14 »


That's a difficult one to call. 

If all they are responsible for is opening and closing the doors, then you have an issue with what's known as 'Cognitive underload'. Basically it's where an individual's mental capacity is not fully utilised during a task, leading to potential issues like boredom, distraction, and decreased performance.
This individual is probably more alert than someone who open and closes the doors and ends up having a micro sleep between those duties.  However, choosing to watch a video is far from the cleverest way of doing it, knitting though, I'm 50/50.  You can do that activity and still have eyes on the road ahead. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2025, 09:51:24 »

Shows a pretty shocking level of entitlement and lack of managerial oversight though doesn't it? If he's breaching the rules like that, what else is he not doing properly? Definitely adds to the argument for installing platform edge doors and automating the lot.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2025, 10:08:40 »

Shows a pretty shocking level of entitlement and lack of managerial oversight though doesn't it? If he's breaching the rules like that, what else is he not doing properly? Definitely adds to the argument for installing platform edge doors and automating the lot.

Not really, a manager can't watch over every single tube driver constantly. Drivers are all adults and are fully aware of their responsibilities.

You either automate the lot or give driving back to the operator and get rid of ATO (Automatic Train Operation).
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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2025, 16:15:42 »

Shows a pretty shocking level of entitlement and lack of managerial oversight though doesn't it? If he's breaching the rules like that, what else is he not doing properly? Definitely adds to the argument for installing platform edge doors and automating the lot.

Drivers are all adults and are fully aware of their responsibilities.



I think the actions of the gentleman watching TV (Thames Valley, or TeleVision, depending on context) and getting creative with the knitting needles in the article pretty effectively rebuts that assertion - awareness of responsibilities is not the same as observing them - however I am sure the overwhelming majority of drivers are as responsible as you suggest.
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2025, 19:30:44 »

Perhaps a suitably trained Alsatian dog could operate the train ?











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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2025, 09:07:33 »

Perhaps a suitably trained Alsatian dog could operate the train ?




Not a bad idea, but don't let ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about)/RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) hear your proposal or they'll have everyone out on strike!
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2025, 10:03:19 »

Perhaps a suitably trained Alsatian dog could operate the train ?
Not a bad idea, but don't let ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about)/RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) hear your proposal or they'll have everyone out on strike!

They would need to bear in mind that dogs are highly organised pack animals like humans, and this would just lead to demands such as the right to demand treats after they have wee-ed in the places provided for them, and the right to work wearing nothing but a leather collar.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2025, 10:57:20 »

Perhaps a suitably trained Alsatian dog could operate the train ?
Not a bad idea, but don't let ASLEF» (Associated Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen - about)/RMT (National Union of Rail, Maritime & Transport Workers) hear your proposal or they'll have everyone out on strike!

They would need to bear in mind that dogs are highly organised pack animals like humans, and this would just lead to demands such as the right to demand treats after they have wee-ed in the places provided for them, and the right to work wearing nothing but a leather collar.

Would they have Sunday in the woofing week?
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