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Question: Would you take a punt (gamble) on ...  (Voting closed: September 02, 2025, 08:47:21)
Horses, hounds, football, etc - 3 (5.9%)
Cards, casino games, slots - 2 (3.9%)
Premium bonds or other investments with risks - 16 (31.4%)
Crossing the road in front of approaching traffic - 8 (15.7%)
Prize draws - lottery, raffles, online, etc - 13 (25.5%)
Being able to get home if your train service is cancelled without alternative offered - 7 (13.7%)
None of the above - 2 (3.9%)
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« on: August 26, 2025, 08:47:21 »

I've got some Premium Bonds and so has Lisa - it's a way we can have some funds off to one side for emergency use in separate accounts just in case one of us becomes no longer available and the other has to pick up the pieces.  And I will occasionally buy tickets for a prize draw; I will admit to that being either to support the old cause the money goes to, or because it's expected of me.  I will not gamble on going out and taking a punt on being able to get home if it's in doubt - in other words I will not take a significant risk in being stuck, unplanned, away from home.

Last night (and far from the first time), GWR (Great Western Railway) cancelled but then re-instated the last train home, and that would have put me personally off even risking an evening out.  Sure, the train ran, BUT I wouldn't have risked it.  Posting a poll here to see if I'm unusually cautious on that, or if others would gamble being able to get home.
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2025, 10:12:18 »

Most items: definitely not - because on average I'm going to lose out to the bookie etc.
Premium bonds and carefully selected investments: yes - because the average gain makes them worthwhile.
Crossing the road in front of oncoming traffic: usually - but only after looking both ways twice and because I reckon I'm still nimble.
Depending on the last train: yes - because I expect the train company to be able to get me home eventually.

For the Greatest Gathering I did risk getting the last train home from Derby to Cheltenham.  Because I really wanted to stay on for the Museum of Making evening slot, and I reckoned that the worst that was at all likely to happen would be having to get the first train the following day.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2025, 12:19:46 »

Premium bonds are a bit of fun but statistically even with the maximum holding you're better off with an ISA in terms of likely returns on your money.

I'll have an occasional flutter on sporting fixtures just to add a bit of fun if I'm attending!

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2025, 20:01:23 »

I've got a few Premium Bonds knocking around that I've had since I was a teenager/twentysomething....not won a penny.
I still have my annual flutter on The National and I'll cross a road if the approaching traffic is far enough away for me to feel comfortable with.
I'm pretty certain that I've caught the last trains home in the past without worrying too much about it but I'm a bit more wary now.... the train I'm on as I write this was chosen rather than the later one with that consideration partly in mind.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2025, 20:10:55 »

Votes from me:

Premium bonds - my wife and I have a few, only because our respective parents bought them for us, over sixty years ago, when it was fashionable to do that. Neither of us has received any actual cash benefit from any of those bonds, ever.

Carefully selected investment funds - my wife and I have some of those, through our respective personal pension plans. Those were recommended to us by our independent financial adviser at the time (nearly twenty years ago) and they have performed generally well, over the years.

We stopped doing the lottery many, many years ago, but I have occasionally bought a raffle ticket - generally in a work environment, where it's sort of expected that staff will support it, rather than in any real expectation of winning something. My wife, too, bought a raffle ticket in her own workplace recently - and won something!  A bottle of male shower gel - which she promptly gave to me. Grin

I would not gamble on 'getting home at night'.  Over the years, I have experienced two occasions when my late night return journey home to Nailsea did not work out. On the first occasion, I walked (it's nine miles). On the second, I was put up on their spare bed overnight by a 'good samaritan' in Bedminster - to whom I am eternally grateful (I had enjoyed a few drinks on that occasion.)  Embarrassed

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2025, 21:42:06 »

As well as the odd bandit, lottery, Omaze house draw, I do occasionally have a flutter on sport. But I couldn't tick the most relevant option for that as it mentions two 'sports' I would NEVER fund through gambling.

I have gambled on getting home by BEING ON the last train. My wager was far too much agreeable red win with friends in Taunton. I fell asleep and missed my stop. I wanted Bristol TM (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context), I 'won' Birmingham NS. My 'prize' cost me a night in a hotel. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2025, 03:23:30 »

I have previously gambled on relatively rare events, such as snow at Christmas, or election results.
I have now given up any/all gambling. I now consider gambling to be a social evil and feel that I should practice what I preach.

If I was in charge, I would prohibit ALL advertising of gambling.
I would also use the planning system to prohibit any increase in bookmakers shops and other premises in which gambling is available.
I would also return to the old policy whereby bookmakers premises had to be made uninviting, this included only permitting ONE TV (Thames Valley, or TeleVision, depending on context) screen, of limited size, hard flooring only without carpets, no upholstered furniture, and no food or drink other than tap water to be available.

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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2025, 04:58:00 »

I have previously gambled on relatively rare events, such as snow at Christmas, or election results.
I have now given up any/all gambling. I now consider gambling to be a social evil and feel that I should practice what I preach.

If I was in charge, I would prohibit ALL advertising of gambling.
I would also use the planning system to prohibit any increase in bookmakers shops and other premises in which gambling is available.
I would also return to the old policy whereby bookmakers premises had to be made uninviting, this included only permitting ONE TV (Thames Valley, or TeleVision, depending on context) screen, of limited size, hard flooring only without carpets, no upholstered furniture, and no food or drink other than tap water to be available.



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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2025, 05:25:47 »

Worth checking your premium bonds online to make sure you haven’t missed any winnings over the years.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2025, 07:43:26 »

I have Premium Bonds and am gradually building up my holding to hopefully get to the point where a monthly prize of some value is almost guaranteed!
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2025, 08:22:48 »

Premium Bonds, yes.
Recommended by our financial advisor as a way of instant access to cash in times of need.
The occasional church or charity draw, yes. Depends on the charity though.
Last train home, probably (as PrestburyRoad says, it's down to GWR (Great Western Railway) to get me home).
Horses, etc, no way.
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2025, 12:12:36 »

We stopped doing the lottery many, many years ago
One televised draw a week that you could enter for a £1 was a novelty when it was introduced. Wasn't impressed with most of the changes after that, especially the doubling of the price to £2 on the main draw (only ever played one line) and don't play now either.
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2025, 14:43:24 »

I have premium bonds and will buy raffle tickets on railtours, but rarely win. I would never rely on the last train. I have a holiday to Austria at the end of October where my flight is due into Stanstead at 1910. In theory I could get home to Bristol that evening if there are no flight delays. I have played safe and booked a hotel for that night.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2025, 23:06:58 »

I have previously gambled on relatively rare events, such as snow at Christmas, or election results.
I have now given up any/all gambling. I now consider gambling to be a social evil and feel that I should practice what I preach.

If I was in charge, I would prohibit ALL advertising of gambling.
I would also use the planning system to prohibit any increase in bookmakers shops and other premises in which gambling is available.
I would also return to the old policy whereby bookmakers premises had to be made uninviting, this included only permitting ONE TV (Thames Valley, or TeleVision, depending on context) screen, of limited size, hard flooring only without carpets, no upholstered furniture, and no food or drink other than tap water to be available.



Thankyou Mr Cromwell  Wink

I am not proposing that betting should be banned. Instead I favour a ban on advertising or promoting gambling/betting. And also I propose that no increase in the number of betting and gambling premises be allowed.
I would limit slot machines in public houses to a maximum payout of £10*, and increase the excise duty payable on such machines. *never to be increased, not even in line with inflation, in order that with inflation, that the payouts would become less attractive.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2025, 12:06:10 »

Here are the results ... with percentage of total voters selecting each option:

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Horses, hounds, football, etc - 14%
Cards, casino games, slots   - 10%
Premium bonds or other investments with risks   - 76%
Crossing the road in front of approaching traffic   - 38%
Prize draws - lottery, raffles, online, etc   - 62%
Being able to get home if your train service is cancelled without alternative offered   - 33%
None of the above   - 10%

The thing that shouts out to me is that only one in three of you would gamble on being able to get home if your service was cancelled without alternative.   Which talks to me of the huge danger to actual traffic done by announcing that a train is cancelled, only to re-instate it later.   And the danger of having an unreliable service.  I note that our voting was skewed and in my view are members are resourceful and hardy - so that double up the sentiment to say that people will not risk the train if there's anything but a minimal change of it not being available.

It seems that most gambling is a minority interest only to members. Two specific area - investments (including premium bonds) and raffles do attract the majority of us.   I will admit to holding some premium bonds, and very sadly I haven't won a major prize this month so no million pounds to [inset life plan change] so life goes on.  And for the first time I took part in the Omaze drawn for the £3 million Cornish home and once again failed to win.  Looking at the house on Streetview and GoogleMaps, I don't actually know what we would have done with it had we won it; I suspect that the change to our daily norm would have been challenging which - I observe - is something of a norm for major prize winners.
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