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« on: August 26, 2025, 22:24:53 »

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Transport for London (TfL» (Transport for London - about)) is targeting the "disruptive behaviour" of passengers who play music and make calls using mobile phone loudspeakers.

TfL said most bus and Tube travellers considered such behaviour "a nuisance" and that some even found the additional noise very stressful.

The new campaign follows TfL research that found 70% of 1,000 passengers surveyed said they found films, music and calls being played on loudspeakers to be a nuisance.

Posters urging passengers to use headphones or hands-free kits with their device will appear on the Elizabeth line from Tuesday and across other services from the autumn.

TfL said it can use its powers to enforce existing by-laws which ban the playing of music or watching content when it causes distress annoyance to others.

During the Monday morning rush hour BBC Radio London spoke to commuters, who backed the message of the campaign.

One said: "It should be banned, definitely. It is not polite to anyone else when you are sat on the Tube in the morning and someone is playing music. That's horrendous. It is not comfortable."

Another said: "Maybe someone might be working or they might be tired so yes I think it should be banned. I personally don't mind but I know that other people are a bit more mindful about that. I guess you have to respect what other people think."

A third commuter said: "Recently on a train there was a woman she was playing quite loud [music] and I was smiling to her trying to give the idea that not everyone could like that music. She didn't care."

Loudspeaker noise can be especially acute for those with heightened sensitivity, such as people with autism.

Emma Strain, TfL's customer director, told BBC Radio London that TfL by-laws prohibit playing music and streaming content out loud without permission. She added: "When our enforcement officers encounter someone doing this they usually ask the person to stop. Most people comply at that stage, but if someone refuses then further enforcement action can be taken, which might include them being asked to leave the service or the station, or being reported for possible prosecution."

The new posters will be accompanied by Instagram posts.

Passengers will also be asked to look up from their screens in case someone else needs their seat more, said TfL.

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In February, a man was fined €200 (£172) for making a call on loudspeaker in a designated quiet area of a French train station. The man, named only as David, told French broadcaster BFM TV (Thames Valley, or TeleVision, depending on context) he was on a call with his sister at Nantes station when an employee from SNCF (Societe Nationale des Chemins de fer Francais - French National Railways), the French railway company, approached him. He planned to appeal against the fine. The French Transport Code says those who use "sound devices or instruments" or "disturb the peace of others by noise" in areas used for public transport could face a fine.

It is believed the use of mobiles and other devices has increased on the Tube, as large sections of the network across central London now have 4G or 5G coverage.

Work is under way to expand coverage to major interchange stations such as Green Park and King's Cross St Pancras, and further sections of the Northern, Piccadilly, Jubilee and Victoria lines by the end of the year, TfL said.


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So they are, sort of, making a rod for beating their own back?  Huh

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2025, 08:47:36 »

Yep - this was so obviously going to be the result!  Roll Eyes

Is t really necessary? Can we have a vote?
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2025, 08:59:44 »

Can we have a vote?

Now there's a thought on the Coffee Shop ... any member can start a poll ... ChrisB??

There are some ironies ... like the provision of pianos in some stations available for anyone who wants a tinkle ... and yet concern over noise.  And like quiet carriages which retain seemingly incessant announcements from train managers and catering crew to whom the "keep it quiet" rules don't seem to apply.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2025, 09:15:57 »

But there's only one piano.....not tens of sonic devices all blaring at once
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2025, 09:52:29 »

But there's only one piano.....not tens of sonic devices all blaring at once

A piano has 88 "play" buttons ...
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2025, 10:04:33 »

eh? its still one piano making one noise
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2025, 16:59:05 »

Other than trains and buses, i.e. walking and cycling the reverse tends to be the case. Going down the road headphones on and lost in their mobile. a hazard to themselves and anyone else on the road. Don't entirely understand noise cancelling headphones if I can hear them when I cycle by.

Advice should be like rugger don't wear a scrum cap you might miss somebody offering to buy a beer!
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2026, 12:29:19 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Mobile phone coverage is expected to be across the entire network by the end of 2026

More stations and underground sections of the Tube network across London now have high-speed mobile coverage, Transport for London (TfL» (Transport for London - about)) has said, including the first sections of the Circle and District lines.

The entire Elizabeth line is covered, as are Euston Square, Cannon Street and Battersea Power Station.

King's Cross St Pancras, Gloucester Road, Warwick Avenue and Vauxhall are due to go live in the next few months.

TfL said it also expected the vast majority of the Northern and Metropolitan lines to have coverage in the tunnels by the end of summer 2026.

The coverage will also host the new Emergency Services Network, which, when fully operational, will be able to give first responders immediate access to data.

Work will continue throughout 2026, with installation work along sections outside central London, and where smaller tunnelled sections need to be treated individually.

About 400 engineers are regularly working on the project overnight.

It is part of the mayor's manifesto to improve digital connectivity in London to increase innovation, productivity and growth.

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Engineers work overnight to install equipment

More information and coverage details are available at tfl.gov.uk/get-online.

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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2026, 13:48:34 »

Sadly I doubt it will be followed by the introduction of quiet carriages.
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