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Author Topic: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026  (Read 28172 times)
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« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2026, 20:19:57 »

They're all going to sweat it out.  Grin

Sorry, I'm running out of appalling puns now. Roll Eyes

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William Huskisson MP▸ (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2026, 20:48:32 »

Heritage Rail GWSR» (Gloucestershire Warwickshire Steam Railway - about) have cancelled all services this week owing to the heatwave.

West Somerset Railway the same. All services cancelled 23rd-25th inclusive.

https://www.wsfp.co.uk/news/record-forecasted-temperatures-see-west-somerset-railway-halt-trains-for-three-days-919570

Surely they could run diesel services, if steam is considered too much of a fire risk .
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2026, 20:59:41 »

They're all going to sweat it out.  Grin

So the steam engines haven't been fired? Cheesy
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« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2026, 21:08:06 »

Thank you!  Wink Cheesy Grin
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William Huskisson MP▸ (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2026, 21:14:14 »

High temperatures play havoc with mechanical signalling, such as the point rods expanding, making points and FPLs▸ (Facing Point Lock) fail, also signal pull wires, there is adjusters on the long pull signals, but only so much. rails expand over points and causes track circuit failures. And of course staff in various offices, they may have a coal fire...
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« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2026, 21:25:58 »

Puzzled by today's weather as the possibility of that downpour seems to have been missed by the forecasts. The satellite imagery of it shows that once it reached Bristol(ish) the cloud top expanded into a roughly circular patch covering a lot of south east England. It's the sort of event of which organisations much prefer to have advanced warning, perhaps the paid-for forecasts provided to and paid for by the likes of the railway included it.

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« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2026, 22:36:47 »

Crumbs, just found that that storm knocked out Bristol airport.

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[Edit] Back in operation this morning. The airport's web site: it lacks a 'Service status' page, difficult to tell that passengers scheduled to arrive yesterday evening may still be travelling from diversion airports or will not have yet left their origin points.
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« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2026, 06:41:01 »

Heritage Rail GWSR» (Gloucestershire Warwickshire Steam Railway - about) have cancelled all services this week owing to the heatwave.

West Somerset Railway the same. All services cancelled 23rd-25th inclusive.

https://www.wsfp.co.uk/news/record-forecasted-temperatures-see-west-somerset-railway-halt-trains-for-three-days-919570

Surely they could run diesel services, if steam is considered too much of a fire risk .

Diesel's suffer in very hot weather, in BR▸ (British Rail(ways)) days it was not uncommon for many of what are now heritage would fail in service, BR often took rad louvers off of some classes of locos.

Also I sure the GWSR were considering the volunteers who would have to work in the extreme heat.
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« Reply #83 on: June 23, 2026, 08:03:09 »

Heritage Rail GWSR» (Gloucestershire Warwickshire Steam Railway - about) have cancelled all services this week owing to the heatwave.

West Somerset Railway the same. All services cancelled 23rd-25th inclusive.

https://www.wsfp.co.uk/news/record-forecasted-temperatures-see-west-somerset-railway-halt-trains-for-three-days-919570

Surely they could run diesel services, if steam is considered too much of a fire risk .

Diesel's suffer in very hot weather, in BR▸ (British Rail(ways)) days it was not uncommon for many of what are now heritage would fail in service, BR often took rad louvers off of some classes of locos.

Also I sure the GWSR were considering the volunteers who would have to work in the extreme heat.

During the recent steam gala at the GWSR a volunteer collapsed due to heat stroke, and the whole timetable had to be recast to allow for breaks and to ensure that there were no delays causing trains to be stationary for long periods of time in the sun.
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« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2026, 08:17:20 »

National Rail 'incident' https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/hot-weather-20260617/
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« Reply #85 on: June 23, 2026, 11:00:31 »

Puzzled by today's weather as the possibility of that downpour seems to have been missed by the forecasts. The satellite imagery of it shows that once it reached Bristol(ish) the cloud top expanded into a roughly circular patch covering a lot of south east England. It's the sort of event of which organisations much prefer to have advanced warning, perhaps the paid-for forecasts provided to and paid for by the likes of the railway included it.

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The Met Office high resolution model UKV did show some potential for thunderstorms but the global models didn't have a sniff of them. Models specifically designed for thunderstorm potential also did reasonably well although those in the South East ended up a bit further north.
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« Reply #86 on: June 23, 2026, 14:58:05 »

Haven't seen this before - I guess it's not the first time: https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/gwr-weather-20260622/
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The extreme heat forecasted this week can lead to an increase in points failures. To reduce the risk of this, Network Rail are not moving some of these points to protect the key route into London.
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« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2026, 15:18:05 »

Haven't seen this before - I guess it's not the first time: https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service-disruptions/gwr-weather-20260622/
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The extreme heat forecasted this week can lead to an increase in points failures. To reduce the risk of this, Network Rail are not moving some of these points to protect the key route into London.

Yes, it's nothing new and is part of the KRS▸ (Key Route Strategy) discussed here yesterday:

https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=31163.msg376248#msg376248
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« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2026, 11:09:40 »

Puzzled by today's weather as the possibility of that downpour seems to have been missed by the forecasts. The satellite imagery of it shows that once it reached Bristol(ish) the cloud top expanded into a roughly circular patch covering a lot of south east England. It's the sort of event of which organisations much prefer to have advanced warning, perhaps the paid-for forecasts provided to and paid for by the likes of the railway included it.

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The Met Office high resolution model UKV did show some potential for thunderstorms but the global models didn't have a sniff of them. Models specifically designed for thunderstorm potential also did reasonably well although those in the South East ended up a bit further north.

The thunderstorm that hit Bath on Monday was more than just your everyday thunderstorm. In the space of just a few minutes, daylight seemed to have been replaced with darkness, and the torrential rain was accompanied by very sudden and violent gusts of wind. I read later that tornadoes had been seen in Devon and Somerset, and I wouldn't be surprised if what we had here was a tornado. With Bath's long steep hills, many roads at the foot of these suddenly found themselves being turned into lakes, and some suffered quite a bit of damage (a friend of mine witnessed Prior Park Road being broken up in front of her).

These sort of events are what we are going to have to get used to with the fast changing climate.
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« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2026, 12:08:43 »

This appeared on X, attributed to "By Mike Jeffries via Facebook - This evening’s thunderstorm approaching Glastonbury." without a link to his Facebook. But its a stunning photo.

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