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No trains yesterday, just departed Penrhyndeudraeth, train manager doing chapter and verse on the expired ticket, he's taken it away to make enquiries by phone to Bath Spa ticket office and to TfW▸ retail...
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2026, 14:57:45 » |
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Sun shining in the west over the sea, snow on the high ground inland, about to cross the bridge. No photos as the train windows are plastered. The ticketing irregularity as yet unresolved, something about which I am intensely relaxed. Onward.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2026, 16:41:49 » |
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After fog at Machynlleth and snow cover on the last of the climb, now touching 70mph on the Cambrian main line north of Moat Lane through a frozen landscape.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2026, 16:44:10 » |
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Snow swept into heaps on the platforms at Newtown, they've had a drop.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2026, 17:59:11 » |
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Onto the 17:44 Manchester Piccadilly to Swansea at Shrewsbury. No chef and first class is quiet but the catering crew are on to things quickly. Snow on the ground outside again. The A49 looks quiet.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2026, 18:12:56 » |
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Speed restriction at Little Strettion as the train was brushed by vegetation, now up to line speed again and doing that yomping past vehicles on the A49 thing. Calling additionally at a couple of stations as the preceeding service was cancelled. At Craven Arms, fog.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2026, 20:27:32 » |
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At Newport in time for the 19:43 home, but as it was cancelled that'll put me over an hour down at Bath.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2026, 20:32:03 » |
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GWR▸ could help here as a Weymouth train leaves 2 minutes after this one arrives. Not exactly cross platform though.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2026, 21:22:54 » |
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GWR▸ could help here as a Weymouth train leaves 2 minutes after this one arrives. Not exactly cross platform though.
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Weymouth train was at the platform but at the extreme weatern end of it, train dispatcher said I'd missed it as its doors were closed and I asked if it could pick me up as it went past, which didn't go down well, as didn't the ensuing conversation about why trains stop in positions that impose the maximum walking distance on passengers. Now on the following Cardiff-Portsmouth with a delay-repay incoming. Mark |
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2026, 21:32:33 » |
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It'll be interesting to understand how much delay/repay you get. It's generally x% of the single fare, but presumably isn't on a 5 day rover otherwise you might get back more than 100% of its cost?
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2026, 23:00:15 » |
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Good point - the delay repay claim will be with regards to the Newport - Bath leg only as I was travelling on the return half of a Bath - Newport period return. Certainly today was similar to a journey covered by split tickets and there is a discussion to be had exploring the consequences of delays while travelling on a rover ticket but in this case the experience with TfW▸ was in the main positive even if things promptly went south at Newport. And it would be good if GWR▸ /Network Rail engaged in some self-reflection on their train platforming practices: it's not good for passengers and I'm not convinced it's good for staff either.
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2026, 00:29:52 » |
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It would be legitimate to include the rover ticket in the Delay Repay claim as it formed part of the contractual journey; might be interesting to see what the estimated amount due is! It wouldn't surprise me if they simply treated a 4 in 8 as 4 return tickets for claim purposes – consistent with season tickets being treated as a return ticket for each day's validity (or something along those lines). I can't remember if rover is one of the claim options though.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2026, 10:46:06 » |
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I posted this in relation to delays I experienced while using a 14 day all line rover. The advice dates from 2014 so may no longer apply. They treat a 14 day rover like a season ticket and divide the cost by 10 to give a daily figure - that is treated as a return ticket and then they halve that to give a single fare and that is what the 25% or 50% is based on. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2026, 11:34:39 » |
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Thanks, both. I'd already slung in the delay repay claim but good to know more background. Not totally happy that for the four days I travelled, each day I raised the issue that the ticket had been given to me without the coupon needed to record the days on which I'd travelled and each time the reply was 'Don't worry about it' until it became an issue when I legitimately needed to use the 'fourth day' for travel after the ticket's expiry date had passed at which point I was alerted that I'd be hitting a penalty fare area. But the guy wasn't hostile about this, so, fine. (Also, why does the railway have 'Penalty fare areas'? Either they're checking ticketing universally or they're not...)
Also, Graham's experience with respect to a rover ticket when opportunities for travel were curtailed by Covid restrictions... that was poor.
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2026, 14:08:15 » |
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Also, Graham's experience with respect to a rover ticket when opportunities for travel were curtailed by Covid restrictions... that was poor.
Yes, it was. But at the time everyone was far more concerned with the huge business of covid and I felt that although the treatment was poor ("trains were still running - not our decision that you could not use them" as I recall) it was not a time to follow-up and make a song and dance over it. Pragmatic acceptance as sometimes happens. I have had similar thoughts with regard delay / repay claims on rangers and rovers ... and in Interrail ticket compensations too. There have been a couple of occasions where significant delays have been suffered but ... yes ... I believe it's worked out by dividing down the cost over the number of active days, and then based on an assumption of a return trip on that day. I am planning a 7 day Freedom of North East at £101.45 in a few weeks - that's £14.50 a day and so £7.25 per single journey. So for delay of just under an hour, I would get £3.63 back. Shrug shoulders and move on. |
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