Protecting children (and others) in taxis (and other modes of transport)

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[grahame]

from the BBC^» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page)

Transport Minister Lilian Greenwood has told MPs^▸ (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) she is open to including mandatory CCTV^▸ (Closed Circuit Tele-Vision) in new national guidelines for taxis.

The government's review of taxi licensing in England follows Baroness Casey's report on grooming gangs, which identified taxis being used by offenders across the country and recommended tougher rules.

At the moment, taxi drivers can buy a private hire vehicle licence from one council but work as far away as they like, taking advantage of lower standards, cheaper licences, and a lack of enforcement.

This allows them to get around tough rules aimed at protecting children, such as Rotherham's gold standard licensing scheme, which includes CCTV in cabs.

Speaking to the Commons Transport Committee, Greenwood said she did not want to "demonise the trade" but MPs could not be "complacent" about the urgent need to strengthen the law.

I have widened the subject line to include other modes of transport, and other more vulnerable groups in addition to children.   Thoughts??

[ChrisB]

Hmmm. To be effective, someone will need to be watching every stream in real time.

Otherwise 99% of it is never going to be watched, so a tad excessive to do it 'just in case'.
I don't know how you control the GDPR issue to storage limitations or your privacy option....

On balance, I'm against I think.

[grahame]

Hmmm. To be effective, someone will need to be watching every stream in real time.

Otherwise 99% of it is never going to be watched, so a tad excessive to do it 'just in case'.
I don't know how you control the GDPR issue to storage limitations or your privacy option....

On balance, I'm against I think.

I'm ... wondering if "AI" style intelligence could / would / should act as a filter, so that a small number of human operatives at central locations could be flagged up on situations that could turn into potential breaches - perhaps going live on the operative's main window with the lead-in that caused the particular taxi/bus/train carriage to be flagged up available for replay in a subsidiary window. 

[Chris from Nailsea]

My personal view(s):

1. The CCTV^▸ (Closed Circuit Tele-Vision) recordings don't have to be watched by someone all day, every day: the recording will be available as evidence in court, if required.

2. A clear notice, next to cameras in taxis (other means of transport are available) that 'You are being recorded' should deter most potential offenders.

CfN^▸ (Chris from Nailsea, an administrator on this forum).

[ChrisB]

1. The CCTV^▸ (Closed Circuit Tele-Vision) recordings don't have to be watched by someone all day, every day: the recording will be available as evidence in court, if required.

2. A clear notice, next to cameras in taxis (other means of transport are available) that 'You are being recorded' should deter most potential offenders.

That wold have been my choices too except for the GDPR problem - how do you secure all the millions of hours worth of CCTV each taxi records & collects - coz it'll not be centrally stored - who's paying for that? Frankly, it's unworkable

[Chris from Nailsea]

I'm not disagreeing with you, ChrisB: tell Lilian Greenwood!