JayMac
« on: June 19, 2026, 18:37:49 »
Breaking news as I post - reported at the end of tonight's
BBC» Evening News.
Serious injuries reported. Trains involved were the 1550 Nottingham to London St Pancras (Class 810) and the 1640 Corby to St Pancras (Class 360). The ex-Corby train has apparently run into the rear of the ex-Nottingham train.
[Image from here is not available to guests] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/19/two-emr-trains-collide-near-bedford/
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JayMac
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2026, 21:28:19 »
An update. From the
BBC» :
Two passenger trains have collided in the Bedford area, leaving a number of passengers and crew hurt. Emergency crews are on the scene after the crash happened between two East Midlands Railway (EMR» ) services at 17.12 BST. Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander said she was "deeply concerned" by reports of the collision, while the Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT▸ ) union said passengers and staff had sustained "serious injuries". Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue crews are attending the site just south of Bedford and the service asked people to avoid the location while they worked at the scene. British Transport Police announced just before 18:45 BST it was responding to reports of a collision near Bedford. Rail service Thameslink reported lines between Luton and Bedford had been blocked since around 17:30 BST.[Image from here is not available to guests] A passenger who was on board one of the trains, who spoke to the BBC, said the collision happened at 17:12 BST. The collision happened just south of the Elstow interchange between the A421 and the A6 and both trains are still on the track. Family and friends of passengers have been told not to go the scene by police.What happened in the collision? It has been claimed one of the trains hit another that was either stationary or moving slowly in front of it on the same line. Passenger Peter Knapp said others on his train saw one ahead of them before the crash. He told BBC News: "I felt like I'd been in a bomb explosion." Knapp described seeing "bloodied faces", people with what appeared to be broken legs, and "smoke everywhere". Another passenger told the BBC that people flew out of their seats in the crash, including someone who hit her husband in the face. "There was a lot of blood. A lot of people had facial injuries," Shola Mene said. The RMT union said it had received reports that passengers and onboard train staff have sustained what it described as "serious injuries". The Rail Accident Investigation branch said it was in Bedford trying to find out exactly what had happened. It said in a statement on X: "A team of RAIB▸ inspectors is on site at the scene of a collision between two trains near Elstow, to start gathering evidence."Which train services were involved? East Midlands Railway has confirmed two of its trains were involved in the collision. A spokesperson said: "The 16:40 EMR train from Corby to London St Pancras has been involved in a collision with 15:50 Nottingham [to] London St Pancras, at Bedford South. "We are currently on the scene and working with Network Rail to assist the emergency services. "Further updates will be provided as soon as more information is established." The train company had earlier posted online that services to and from London St Pancras were suspended for the rest of the day.What have the emergency services said? British Transport Police says it is responding to a collision between two trains in the Bedford area. "We understand that people are concerned about relatives or friends who may have been travelling on the trains involved in the incident near Bedford," a spokesperson added. "We're asking people not to travel to the scene and await further updates from emergency services." Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service said: "Crews are currently in attendance at an incident on the railway just south of Bedford. "Please avoid the area. Thank you for your co-operation." East of England Ambulance Service said: "We have sent a number of resources, including air ambulance and our Hazardous Area Response Team, to a major incident on the railway south of #Bedford. We encourage people to avoid the area. "Further updates will be provided in due course. Please only call 999 in an emergency."What has been the reaction from politicians? Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander said she was worried by reports of the collision. She said on X: "I'm deeply concerned to hear reports of the collision involving two East Midlands Railway passenger trains. "I'm grateful to emergency services who are on the scene, attending to those affected. "We're working quickly with the rail industry and local partners to support passengers." Bedford and Kempston MP▸ Mohammad Yasin said the "very serious" incident was "really concerning" and told the BBC he believed there was "a number of casualties". Health Secretary James Murray said: "I am being kept updated on the collision of two trains between Luton and Bedford. "A number of people have been injured and I thank first responders who are helping those affected."
Pictures from the scene:
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Mark A
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2026, 22:05:01 »
Ah. Does one of those photos suggest that one end of one of the carriages of the the 810 train derailed and slewed out of alignment, fouling the adjacent running track? If so, that is significant... and hasn't it happened before? How similar is this train and its coupling to one of LNER» 's? Mark
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Chris from Nailsea
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2026, 23:02:40 »
Live, from
the BBC» :
One dead and 11 very seriously injured in Bedford train crash as police declare major incident SummaryOne person has died after two trains collided in Bedford, according to British Transport Police The ambulance service says 89 people have been injured, with 11 of them suffering "very serious injuries" A major incident has been declared, with firefighters, police and ambulance crews at the scene The trains involved were the 16:40 from Corby to London St Pancras and the 15:50 from Nottingham to London St Pancras Passenger Peter Knapp tells BBC News he was in the front carriage of one of the trains: "I felt like I'd been in a bomb explosion" Prime Minister Keir Starmer has offered his condolences to the person who has died, calling the incident "hugely concerning" East Midlands Railway says all its services to and from London St Pancras have been suspended; Thameslink says all lines are blocked between Luton and Bedford
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JayMac
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2026, 23:08:01 »
At risk of speculation, although that image, and others I have seen, do show the separation and slewing of one vehicle of the 810. We have to be thankful there wasn't a passing train on the adjacent line. It appears that the slewed carriage is the third of the five car Class 810. That suggests a fair bit of energy has travelled through three carriages.
The energy involved to create the damage shown does suggest this wasn't a slow impact. Eye witness accounts back that up.
That's enough (informed) speculation from me for now. The
RAIB▸ are on scene and they will diligently piece together all the events, gather all the evidence and interview all parties involved. In the fullness of time they will publish their report. It will, as always, be an interesting read.
EDIT: Having just read the latest sad update, my thoughts are with the family and friends of the person who has sadly died.
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Chris from Nailsea
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2026, 00:59:04 »
An update, from
the BBC» :
Driver dead and 33 people seriously injured as Bedford train crash declared major incident A train driver has died and 89 people have been injured after two trains collided in the Bedford area as police declare a major incident. Eleven people suffered very serious injuries, 22 were seriously injured and a further 56 have minor injuries, the East of England Ambulance service said. The crash involved two southbound East Midlands Railway (EMR» ) services, both travelling to London St Pancras on Friday afternoon. The cause of the incident is still under investigation.RMT▸ general secretary Eddie Dempsey said the union was "devastated to learn that a train driver and former RMT rep has tragically died" in the crash. In a statement, the British Transport Police (BTP▸ ) said they had declared a major incident following the collision, which took place at around 17:15BST. "We know that a number of people have been injured and one person has very sadly died", the statement said. Passenger Dr Peter Knapp told the BBC he was travelling in the "front carriage of the train that collided into another one". "When I got up, I saw all of the chairs everywhere. It felt like I'd been in a bomb explosion. "When I got up, I saw people's bloodied faces and people's legs looked broken and there was smoke everywhere", he said. Speaking from the side of the road, Knapp said the police were taking passengers details while some were taken taken to hospital. "Some people are spitting out blood", he said.(BBC article continues)
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Mark A
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2026, 07:58:24 »
At risk of speculation, although that image, and others I have seen, do show the separation and slewing of one vehicle of the 810. We have to be thankful there wasn't a passing train on the adjacent line. It appears that the slewed carriage is the third of the five car Class 810. That suggests a fair bit of energy has travelled through three carriages.
The energy involved to create the damage shown does suggest this wasn't a slow impact. Eye witness accounts back that up.
That's enough (informed) speculation from me for now. The
RAIB▸ are on scene and they will diligently piece together all the events, gather all the evidence and interview all parties involved. In the fullness of time they will publish their report. It will, as always, be an interesting read.
EDIT: Having just read the latest sad update, my thoughts are with the family and friends of the person who has sadly died.
Agree - also, ideally my observation needs to be 'Unposted' to separate it from this thread and parked somewhere as - fortunately - it is not of so much concern to this particular (and terrible) event but will be something that the RAIB will be noting.
Mark
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grahame
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2026, 15:55:05 »
BBC» quoting that an (interim, I'm sure) update will come from the
RAIB▸ in coming
days . Makes sense especially if there are safety issues to be addressed that are generally significant. RAIB seem much quicker at the interim reporting than they used to be.
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB), who is working with the British Transport Police (BTP▸ ) to establish the facts and determine what happened before the crash, says a further update will be provided "in the coming days". In a statement on X, the branch says: "RAIB inspectors continue to gather evidence at the site of yesterday's collision between two trains near Elstow. "RAIB will conduct a full, independent safety investigation into this tragic accident. "We will provide a further update in the coming days once we know more."
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stuving
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2026, 16:14:04 »
BBC» quoting that an (interim, I'm sure) update will come from the
RAIB▸ in coming
days . Makes sense especially if there are safety issues to be addressed that are generally significant. RAIB seem much quicker at the interim reporting than they used to be.
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch (RAIB), who is working with the British Transport Police (BTP▸ ) to establish the facts and determine what happened before the crash, says a further update will be provided "in the coming days". In a statement on X, the branch says: "RAIB inspectors continue to gather evidence at the site of yesterday's collision between two trains near Elstow. "RAIB will conduct a full, independent safety investigation into this tragic accident. "We will provide a further update in the coming days once we know more."
At this stage that will not be an interim report, but a preliminary one (though not really a report at all) - very different. Any investigation needs planning, scoping, allocation of staff, consideration of immediate actions (legal or technical), etc. That will be based on the facts that can be collected with no real investigating, including many not known to the public or media. It has been found valuable to publish a summary of what is known at this point, before the investigation proper starts. For one thing is helps to stop a lot of wild speculation and misreporting, and less wild too.
An interim report happens after most of the investigation results are available, but before the final report can be written. Again one of the main reasons for one is to stop too much speculation about the content of the final report, particularly if that is taking a long time.
For some reason the terms are often used interchangeably.
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ChrisB
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2026, 16:59:42 »
Indeed, likely to simply be a statement of (some) facts rather than reasons....along with any immediate safety concerns that need immediate action. Update from 1230 news conference reported in many outlets - 9 remain critical in hospital along with 28 less seriously injured.
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Oxonhutch
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2026, 21:04:17 »
The aspect displayed by 358 upon the departure of the 360 will be interesting to discover.
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Chris from Nailsea
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2026, 21:59:19 »
As an administrator on this Coffee Shop forum, may I thank all of our members here for your restrained, non-speculative, posts about this sad incident. The Rail Accident Investigation Branch will indeed discover all of the facts, and provide us with a definitive report, in due course.CfN▸ . -X
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William Huskisson MP▸ was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830. Many more have died in the same way since then. Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen. "Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner." Discuss.
a-driver
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2026, 23:11:42 »
The aspect displayed by 358 upon the departure of the 360 will be interesting to discover.
The signalling maps show 358 displayed a single yellow.
356 displayed a red and then stepped up to a single yellow to crossover once the
IET▸ had cleared the section
154 remained at Red protecting the IET. 154 is not
TPWS▸ fitted.
This is what the signalling maps show but it must be remembered that the maps show what the signals are expected to show. This doesn’t confirm what the signals show on the ground.
This type of routing does carry a risk, especially if this is the usual type of routing.
What happens at 154 is key, especially with the
AWS▸ .
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grahame
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2026, 02:08:05 »
As an administrator on this Coffee Shop forum, may I thank all of our members here for your restrained, non-speculative, posts about this sad incident. The Rail Accident Investigation Branch will indeed discover all of the facts, and provide us with a definitive report, in due course.CfN▸ . -X
Well confirmed, Chris. This is one of the most difficult "fine line"s that we tread on the Coffee Shop. I am reminded of a level crossing accident on The Marches line where it was obviously a car driver error - except that it turned out that it wasn't.
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