Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 18:55 16 Oct 2026
 
- Ship attack reports near Hormuz reach record high as oil exports slow
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 tomorrow - Flying Scotsman - Wiltshire
24/10/26 - Industrial Heritage
29/10/26 - Life of two halves, Oxford
25/11/26 - WWRUG / Nathan Sealey / Metros

On this day
16th Oct (1905)
Lacock Halt opened (link)

Train RunningCancelled
18:03 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington
18:23 London Paddington to Banbury
19:04 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads
19:06 London Paddington to Bedwyn
19:15 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford
19:45 Banbury to London Paddington
20:42 Bedwyn to London Paddington
21:03 Oxford to Bristol Temple Meads
21:10 Bristol Temple Meads to Oxford
Short Run
15:23 Portsmouth Harbour to Cardiff Central
18:20 Paignton to Exmouth
18:26 Exmouth to Paignton
20:02 Cheltenham Spa to London Paddington
Delayed
14:36 London Paddington to Penzance
16:18 London Paddington to Carmarthen
16:30 London Paddington to Taunton
16:36 London Paddington to Penzance
18:30 Plymouth to Penzance
•
PollsThere are no open or recent polls
•
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
•
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
•
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
• • Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple Meads • Bath Spa • Chippenham • Swindon • Didcot Parkway • Reading • London Paddington • Melksham
Exeter St Davids • Taunton • Westbury • Trowbridge • Bristol Parkway • Cardiff Central • Oxford • Cheltenham Spa • Testing!
October 16, 2026, 19:03:42 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[97] Devizes 52-year wait for train station could end
[86] Jonathan Jones-Pratt, RIP
[61] Delay Repay bouncing around
[41] Server slow ...
[38] 50th anniversary of the introduction of HST's on the route
[37] Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged post...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Linked Events
  • WWRUG / Nathan Sealey / Metros: November 25, 2026
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: An example that perhaps Bristol and Bath should follow?  (Read 1654 times)
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 48104



View Profile WWW Email
« on: August 02, 2026, 07:58:34 »

Yesterday ... my first visit to Chemnitz, travelling through on the hourly train from Aue in Saxony that turned itself into a tram at Technopark, switched from diesel to electric, and combed in with other services to give a more frequent mass transit through the heart of the city and to the main railway station where I left it to continue out on the other side. It's not unique - I have arrived in Saabrucken on a tram that started on a train. And in the UK▸ (United Kingdom), we have a similar system in Sheffield though I have not travelled on it.   

The idea seems sensible and appears to work well - so why has it not seen wider adoption, and might it work in places like Bristol and Bath, Exeter and Plymouth, Southampton and Swindon?



















« Last Edit: August 02, 2026, 11:37:50 by grahame » Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Transport User Group, West Wiltshire Rail User Group Committee and TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
WelshBluebird
Transport Scholar
Sr. Member
******
Posts: 197


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2026, 10:13:00 »

We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.
Logged
grahame
Administrator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 48104



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2026, 11:36:29 »

We don't even need to look that far. The 398s being introduced in South Wales are based on the same tram-train platform and some of the extensions being done and planned in terms of street running are great examples for showing what you could do.

Our speaker at the November 25th 2026  meeting of the West Wiltshire Rail User group will be Nathan Sealey, Head of Practice - Systems Engineering and BIM▸ (Building Information Modeling)  |  Consulting Rail at Amey, who has had rather a lot  Cheesy to do with the South Wales Metro.  We may hear some things looking ahead to the Bath and Wiltshire metro too.

Meeting from 19:00 (for networking and coffee) with Nathan talking from 19:30. Paid up members of WWRUG» (West Wiltshire Rail Users Group - about) - it's included. Guests welcome for £2 on the night (cash only).   At the Bethesda Church Hall, near to Trowbridge station, with a finish time such that it works out well for trains in all sorts of directions even before we have metro frequency!
Logged

Coffee Shop Admin, Chair of Melksham Transport User Group, West Wiltshire Rail User Group Committee and TravelWatch SouthWest Board Member
stuving
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7784


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2026, 11:40:00 »

There are two separate questions here: one about trams per se, on-road in the city centre and segregated outside, and the other about sharing lines with heavy rail. The first has been done, e.g.Croydon (where heavy rail lines were transferred rather than shared) or to a limited extent in other cities. And even in the USA - MAX in Portland, Oregon.

Sharing has been suggested (some time ago - before Sheffield - I forget when) but I recall that the idea fell foul of the issue of "buffing load". I have found little on this on line, or in old newspapers, but I think the standards required railway vehicles to sustain an end load (static?) of 200 tonnes. For trams the requirement was much lower, perhaps 20 tonnes. The Germans must have had a way round this.
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of page • Jump to Forum Home Page