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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2026, 10:05:08 »

4 Halle (Saale) Hbf
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2026, 19:40:23 »

3; Wernigerode Westerntor station with the works just behind the hedge on the left.  Note the "heritage" train information display fixed to the lamp post!
5; Eisfelder Talmühle.  Railcar for Gernerode?
6; Drei Annen Hohne. Junction for the Brocken.
9; "Restaurant 1835"/Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode.  Drinks and desserts delivered by train!

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All correct, as is the extra information - I suspect you have been there, Dave  Cheesy


I have indeed Grahame,  many times over the years.

My first visit was July 1991 when the Harz system, including freight, was still run by DR (Deutsche Reichsbahn) as part of the local public transport network.
The Brocken had not yet re-opened following re-unification and there was still a Russian outpost at the summit.
Steam still reigned supreme and regular parallel departures from Eisfelder Talmühle and Alexisbad were a sight to behold and clearly a source of pride amongst the loco crews!
Gernerode to Quendlingburg was still standard gauge and had a passenger service.  The connection with the Nordhausen tram network probably hadn't even reached the drawing board stage
A major part of the Harz network ran in "green tunnels" through dense coniferous forest well before the beetle struck leading to the present almost post-apocalyptic landscape - but much better distant views!

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2026, 10:43:56 »

[snip]... I suspect you have been there, Dave  Cheesy

I have indeed Grahame,  many times over the years.

My first visit was July 1991 when the Harz system, including freight, was still run by DR (Deutsche Reichsbahn) as part of the local public transport network.
The Brocken had not yet re-opened following re-unification and there was still a Russian outpost at the summit.
Steam still reigned supreme and regular parallel departures from Eisfelder Talmühle and Alexisbad were a sight to behold and clearly a source of pride amongst the loco crews!
Gernerode to Quendlingburg was still standard gauge and had a passenger service.  The connection with the Nordhausen tram network probably hadn't even reached the drawing board stage
A major part of the Harz network ran in "green tunnels" through dense coniferous forest well before the beetle struck leading to the present almost post-apocalyptic landscape - but much better distant views!

Dave

Fascinating insight Dave, thank you.   This was my third visit - on my first I did the main tourist thing to The Brocken from Wernigerode - no stop overnight in the town, rather part of a day as I passed through.  My second I passed though from Quedlinburg to Nordhausen, taking a railbus to Alexisbad, a steam train to Eisfelder Talmühle and another railbus to Nordhausen.  And on the third trip - this one - I "almost completed" the network by taking the train from Wernigerode to Eisfelder Talmühle, and on the following day revisited The Brocken with Lisa.   We also had a chance to look around the town centre and found much, much more there than a mere interchange.

The """Restaurant 1835"/Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode.  Drinks and desserts delivered by train!"" was chosen as a must-do-once experience and we are glad we did it, but like Stonehenge it's a one off bucket list thing and not something we would repeat.  The room was lovely, although a couple of aspects suggested that the architect who put it together hadn't actually stayed there.  The staff, sadly, confirmed a previous Trip Advisor reviewer's feedback that priority was given to German guests and British visitors were offered only a lower and slower standard of table and service.

From Eisfelder Talmühle ... parallel trains departed towards Alexisbad and Wernigerode at 13:47, but the Alexisbad service this year is a railbus ... which drew up and waited so that it could leave in parallel. The line onward from there  towards Nordhausen is rail replacement buses as present as far as Ifield, where you transfer to the tram that shares the same line.

Probably easier on a map ... taken from the table in the trains



The section from Drei Annen Hohne to Eisfelder Talmühle is very much the lesser for me to suggest to others - yes, the forests are gone and at this time of year it's a sea of purple willow herbs and skeletons of trees





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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2026, 05:37:48 »

Completing the answers ...

1 Kolobrzeg
2 Vienenberg
3 Wernigerode Westerntor
4 Halle
5 Eisfelder Talmühle
6 Drei Annen Hohne
7 Berlin Hbf
8 Pasewalk
9 Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode

We took yesterday R&R - onward today ...
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I have indeed Grahame,  many times over the years.

My first visit was July 1991 when the Harz system, including freight, was still run by DR (Deutsche Reichsbahn) as part of the local public transport network.
The Brocken had not yet re-opened following re-unification and there was still a Russian outpost at the summit.
Steam still reigned supreme and regular parallel departures from Eisfelder Talmühle and Alexisbad were a sight to behold and clearly a source of pride amongst the loco crews!
Gernerode to Quendlingburg was still standard gauge and had a passenger service.  The connection with the Nordhausen tram network probably hadn't even reached the drawing board stage
A major part of the Harz network ran in "green tunnels" through dense coniferous forest well before the beetle struck leading to the present almost post-apocalyptic landscape - but much better distant views!

Dave

Fascinating insight Dave, thank you.   This was my third visit - on my first I did the main tourist thing to The Brocken from Wernigerode - no stop overnight in the town, rather part of a day as I passed through.  My second I passed though from Quedlinburg to Nordhausen, taking a railbus to Alexisbad, a steam train to Eisfelder Talmühle and another railbus to Nordhausen.  And on the third trip - this one - I "almost completed" the network by taking the train from Wernigerode to Eisfelder Talmühle, and on the following day revisited The Brocken with Lisa.   We also had a chance to look around the town centre and found much, much more there than a mere interchange.
The regrettably very lightly used branches to Hasselfelde and Harzgerode are also worth a visit although the current timetable now means that a visit to either is almost a day's excursion in its own right. 

The """Restaurant 1835"/Hotel Altora dining room, Wernigerode.  Drinks and desserts delivered by train!"" was chosen as a must-do-once experience and we are glad we did it, but like Stonehenge it's a one off bucket list thing and not something we would repeat.  The room was lovely, although a couple of aspects suggested that the architect who put it together hadn't actually stayed there.  The staff, sadly, confirmed a previous Trip Advisor reviewer's feedback that priority was given to German guests and British visitors were offered only a lower and slower standard of table and service.
Undoubtedly the Altora's key selling point is its proximity to the railway and its railway theme.  When we stayed there in 2024 the staff were fine and while I wouldn't say that the customer service was exceptional they were perfectly hospitable and generaly efficient.  The only favouritism that we observed, and worked in our favour, was that in the dining room hotel guests were given priority for the window tables served by the model railway.  Non-hotel residents were almost invariably ushered towards the other tables!

From Eisfelder Talmühle ... parallel trains departed towards Alexisbad and Wernigerode at 13:47, but the Alexisbad service this year is a railbus ... which drew up and waited so that it could leave in parallel. The line onward from there  towards Nordhausen is rail replacement buses as present as far as Ifield, where you transfer to the tram that shares the same line.

Probably easier on a map ... taken from the table in the trains



The section from Drei Annen Hohne to Eisfelder Talmühle is very much the lesser for me to suggest to others - yes, the forests are gone and at this time of year it's a sea of purple willow herbs and skeletons of trees
I do agree with you about this section these days.  Whilst the former green tunnel has largely disappeared opening up some excellent views of the Brocken it has become generally fairly featureless.  On my earlier visits it was the main backbone of the network with all the stations staffed and a fairly intensive, mainly steam worked through passenger service.  At least it has survived and there has been local investment in the providing the railbuses to try and maintain a public transport service of sorts.  All the same one has to wonder how long it can survive.

On our last visit though the morning first morning departure from Wernigerode to Nordhausen was being bustituted due lack of train crew.  This service is now normally operated by a railcar which crosses with the corresponding departure from Nordhausen at Benneckenstein where the crews swap over.  The substitute from Wernigerode was a 14 seater minibus.  On one day we were the only passengers however a couple of days there were two other fellow travellers.  On that occasion, on reaching Benneckenstein the railcar from Nordhausen arrived with a full complement of 30 or so passengers.  We didn't stop round long enough to see how they were going to manage the rest of their journey to Wernigerode with just a 14 seater minibus!
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2026, 06:23:36 »

The regrettably very lightly used branches to Hasselfelde and Harzgerode are also worth a visit although the current timetable now means that a visit to either is almost a day's excursion in its own right. 

Those remain on my "not visited" list.  Harzgerode is currently out of action, and I from what I read and hear that may not be temporary.  The track is said to be in very poor condition, and I saw a suggestion that there's a reservoir or something being built that will interfere with/ may flood it?  Please treat these comments as unconfirmed chat, and I may be wrong. 

It was a couple of years ago I did Quedliburg to Eisfelder Talmühle and that "reversed" at Steige rather than going up the Hasselfelde branch and back.  I say "reversered" advisedly because there's a loop track just to the north of the station that takes you round.   Just two trains a day these days go up that branch and back - so you would have too long or too short a time to look around destination .... and I heard on the local news (I think) that the local government has agreed funding for Quedliburg to Eisfelder Talmühle which (?) may have been under threat. 

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I do agree with you about this section these days.  Whilst the former green tunnel has largely disappeared opening up some excellent views of the Brocken it has become generally fairly featureless.  On my earlier visits it was the main backbone of the network with all the stations staffed and a fairly intensive, mainly steam worked through passenger service.  At least it has survived and there has been local investment in the providing the railbuses to try and maintain a public transport service of sorts.  All the same one has to wonder how long it can survive.

On our last visit though the morning first morning departure from Wernigerode to Nordhausen was being bustituted due lack of train crew.  This service is now normally operated by a railcar which crosses with the corresponding departure from Nordhausen at Benneckenstein where the crews swap over.  The substitute from Wernigerode was a 14 seater minibus.  On one day we were the only passengers however a couple of days there were two other fellow travellers.  On that occasion, on reaching Benneckenstein the railcar from Nordhausen arrived with a full complement of 30 or so passengers.  We didn't stop round long enough to see how they were going to manage the rest of their journey to Wernigerode with just a 14 seater minibus!

Just three services a day at present south of Drie Annen Hohen. First is a diesel loco hauled service.   Second is a steam train that goes up The Brocken first (connection at Drie Annen Hohen off another train headed up The Brocken). And the third is a bus.  I was on the steam train with no more than a handful to others once we got off The Brocken train.  Return journey likewise quiet - though we picked up a substantial load at Drie off a short steam working from The Brocken.   If I was trying to run this as a business, I would be very concerned at the excess of expenditure over income on the main network.   Little if any social local need being met, though it does bring some visitors.   Cannot comment for the tram from Nordhausen to Ifield.

Some more pictures from ... what is now last week ... at  Eisfelder Talmühle, Drie Annen Hohen and between.










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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2026, 10:02:20 »

Onward ...









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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2026, 16:37:01 »

There is something that almost sounds like home when arriving in Prague and hearing the sounds of the station

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2026, 09:58:11 »

And so onwards to what I saw describe somewhere as "the biggest station ... in Europe" - not sure how accurate that definition is, nor how they measure "biggest".   Certainly the most modern coffee machine I have ever see, with your real bean coffee made by a robot:



And from around the station





Leipzig has an association with Wagner ... and the musical interest continues with piano at the station.



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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2026, 15:24:48 »

We allowed half an hour to change in Frankfurt - but I don't think our connection will have been held.

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