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« on: September 04, 2008, 00:16:57 »

"In the early hours of Saturday, October 13, 1928, the Leeds to Bristol night mail train crashed under the road bridge at Charfield station, South Gloucestershire.  Gas cylinders used to light the carriages blew up, and the fire was so savage that 12 who died were so badly decomposed that their relatives accepted the railway company's offer of a mass grave, which is still prominent in a corner of the village churchyard.  And it's on the memorial stone that the mystery lives on, for after listing 10 names and their places of origin, it ends with "Two Unknown". Despite a number of theories the true identity of the bodies is still unknown.

As the 80th anniversary of the tragedy draws near the Western Daily Press launches an appeal to anyone who might be able to finally uncover the mystery that has shrouded the crash for decades."

For full details, see http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Mystery-train-crash-children/article-294878-detail/article.html
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008, 17:13:46 »

Although there is not a copy of the accident report some info here http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/eventsummary.php?eventID=96
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 21:31:54 »

Thisisbristol say

"According to sources, signalman Henry Button accepted the train from the Berkeley Junction and put the distant signal to danger.

That should have halted the express until a freight train had reversed into sidings.

But driver Henry Aldington and his fireman, Frank Want, both read the distant signal as clear instead of danger and ran headlong into horror."


Distant signals can't show 'danger', only clear or caution.  As such, a distant at caution could not have stopped the express, but only served to warn that the next stop signal, (situated at a safe braking distance), was at danger.  Naturally, the driver, had he read the distant,  should have slowed his train in preparation for the stop signal, but passing the distant could not in itself have been the cause of the accident. The driver of the express must also have passed the subsequent stop signal to collide with the freight train.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 22:09:01 »

Although there is not a copy of the accident report some info here http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/eventsummary.php?eventID=96

There is a report now http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/MoT_Charfield1928.pdf
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2019, 16:51:08 »

Long article in the Bristol Post. Also covered on the Charfield Community website

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The Charfield railway disaster was a fatal train crash which occurred on 13 October 1928 in the village of Charfield in the English county of Gloucestershire. The Leeds to Bristol London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS (London Midland Scottish - 1923 to 1948)) night mail train failed to stop at the signals protecting the down refuge siding at Charfield railway station. The weather was misty, but there was not a sufficiently thick fog for the signalman at Charfield to employ fog signalmen. A freight train was in the process of being shunted from the down main line to the siding, and another train of empty goods wagons was passing through the station from the Bristol (up) direction. The mail train collided with the freight train and was derailed, coming into collision with the up train underneath the road bridge to the north of the station.
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2019, 19:55:23 »

Being deeply involved in some genealogical research at the moment (and hence why I'm not posting on here as much as usual), on reading this thread I was reminded of a maiden aunt who frequently spoke about the two children who were killed in the collision and were never claimed. They are buried in Charfield churchyard.

An alternative theory was put forward that they were acually dwarfs who were part of a circus troupe but I don't know if the matter was ever fully resolved.

She also used to rabbit on quite frequently about the scuppering of the German fleet at Scapa Flow, and had a lot of deeply personal views about the parentage of Kaiser Bill as well.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2021, 10:22:25 »

Some progress towards a new train station at Charfield, near Wotton-under-Edge. Jacobs, on behalf of Network Rail, have submitted the following application to South Gloucestershire Council:

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P21/023/SCR | Screening opinion for the creation of a railway station including platforms and footbridges; car parking; bus interchange; highway improvements, and associated works. | Land Off Station Road Charfield South Gloucestershire GL12 8SY

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Charfield Rail Station will provide much-needed access to the rail network for a catchment of up
to 14,500 residents within a 5km radius, reducing pressure on the road network in an area which
has high levels of car dependency due to limited of alternative transport modes and long
journey distances to key employment clusters in the North Fringe and Bristol City Centre.
The new station will lie at the heart of the village, presenting a unique opportunity to promote
access to the station by walking and cycling, with both existing and proposed new developments
in Charfield all located within a 10-minute walk of the Station.

Details are available at https://developments.southglos.gov.uk/online-applications/

Search for P21/023/SCR
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2021, 14:30:45 »

Good. A step in the right direction.

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2021, 17:25:17 »

Only just spotted this

https://consultations.southglos.gov.uk/CharfieldStation/consultationHome

Shame as it would have been nice to have visited (now gone) the public consultation/s
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2021, 18:01:40 »

Only just spotted this

https://consultations.southglos.gov.uk/CharfieldStation/consultationHome

Shame as it would have been nice to have visited (now gone) the public consultation/s

Don't CGIsts have some funny ideas about realism? Like the leaves on the trees are all fluttering in the breeze, but the people are all frozen rigid. And not one of them was looking at a phone, let alone fingering the screen.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2021, 11:54:55 »

...and it's always a lovely sunny day!  It's much more important for prospective users to see what it will be like on a wet and windy day, or a cold and drizzly night.
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2022, 17:38:17 »

The following planning application has been submitted to South Glos Council:

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Installation of 2 no. platform railway station with station forecourt ((including cycle parking, bus shelter and car parking), erection of pedestrian footbridge and accessible lifts, passenger waiting shelters, creation of car park off Station road, with associated infrastructure and works to Sta... | Land Off Station Road Charfield South Gloucestershire

Go to www.southglos.gov.uk/planning-applications and search application number P22/05778/R3F for full details.

(Some people seem able to link directly to these things; I've never managed to work out how it's done!)
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2022, 19:46:15 »

The following planning application has been submitted to South Glos Council:

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Installation of 2 no. platform railway station with station forecourt ((including cycle parking, bus shelter and car parking), erection of pedestrian footbridge and accessible lifts, passenger waiting shelters, creation of car park off Station road, with associated infrastructure and works to Sta... | Land Off Station Road Charfield South Gloucestershire

Go to www.southglos.gov.uk/planning-applications and search application number P22/05778/R3F for full details.

(Some people seem able to link directly to these things; I've never managed to work out how it's done!)
I think a significant majority of local authority planning sites don’t allow linking directly to application pages and documents, or they leave you with cookies to allow you yourself to get back directly, but that doesn’t help anyone else. It’s probably done so you can’t bypass the terms and conditions page, where you often need to tick a box. I usually just post the planning application reference number and leave it at that.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2022, 15:25:15 »

This may be of interest, I think Gareth Dennis and a few others would have something to say about the sleeper spacing in the video ;-)

https://beta.southglos.gov.uk/charfield-train-station

Does anyone know when the half-hourly stopping service on the line might come to pass?
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2023, 22:57:20 »

From Bristol Live

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Planners could give the go-ahead for a new train station in a village in South Gloucestershire next week. Charfield lies on the railway running from Bristol to Gloucester but has been left without a station for almost 60 years, although that could soon change.

The £22-million station would be built off Station Road in the centre of the village, with two platforms, a pedestrian footbridge, a bus stop, covered cycle parking, and car parking. The village’s old train station shut in 1965 as part of the Beeching cuts, when many stations across the country closed.
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