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« Reply #1965 on: May 04, 2025, 15:33:21 »

"I travel by sleeper train as my job – here’s what makes them so special"
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/travel/sleeper-train-travel-job-special-3672719
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« Reply #1966 on: Yesterday at 05:18:16 »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 will be diverted between Exeter St Davids and Reading.

It will be delayed between Exeter St Davids and Reading and is expected to be 120 minutes late.

This is due to a fault on this train.
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« Reply #1967 on: Yesterday at 07:08:42 »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 will be diverted between Exeter St Davids and Reading.

It will be delayed between Exeter St Davids and Reading and is expected to be 120 minutes late.

This is due to a fault on this train.
Diverted via Melksham perhaps?
A long lie-in this morning for passengers.
Arrived Reading 0630 (145 minutes late), but still there as I type!
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« Reply #1968 on: Yesterday at 07:23:07 »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04
21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 will be diverted between Exeter St Davids and Reading.

It will be delayed between Exeter St Davids and Reading and is expected to be 120 minutes late.

This is due to a fault on this train.
Diverted via Melksham perhaps?
A long lie-in this morning for passengers.
Arrived Reading 0630 (145 minutes late), but still there as I type!

It left Exeter St Davids 200 minutes late, having arrived there on time, and travelled via Honiton and back onto planned route at Castle Cary.  It was planned to run via Melksham and Swindon but as far as I can tell diverted via Newbury and arrived reading at 06:30 - 145 minutes late as stated.  I suspect it will be cancelled in from there.

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« Reply #1969 on: Yesterday at 07:27:53 »



It left Exeter St Davids 200 minutes late, having arrived there on time, and travelled via Honiton and back onto planned route at Castle Cary.  It was planned to run via Melksham and Swindon but as far as I can tell diverted via Newbury and arrived reading at 06:30 - 145 minutes late as stated.  I suspect it will be cancelled in from there.


Left Reading 179 minutes down, but heading for Paddington.
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« Reply #1970 on: Yesterday at 08:41:52 »

Paddington 175 late. It ran through platform 1 at Castle Cary according to RTT» (Real Time Trains - website), which is only available from Taunton. So the booked route via Honiton was not taken. Likewise it seems to have gone via the B&H (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury), with not the booked call at Swindon

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:G45618/2025-05-11/detailed
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« Reply #1971 on: Yesterday at 08:45:32 »

Paddington 175 late. It ran through platform 1 at Castle Cary according to RTT» (Real Time Trains - website), which is only available from Taunton. So the booked route via Honiton was not taken. Likewise it seems to have gone via the B&H (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury), with not the booked call at Swindon

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:G45618/2025-05-11/detailed

Ah - thanks for that - I misread Real Time Trains in my earlier report.
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« Reply #1972 on: Yesterday at 11:32:55 »

I’d assume as it changed route at Exeter, and they’re citing a train fault, that the fault may have been in the Taunton end cab of the 57. The delay whilst they waited for the honiton route to reopen?
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« Reply #1973 on: Today at 05:43:07 »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04

12/05/25 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 has been delayed at Camborne and is now 126 minutes late.

This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.
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« Reply #1974 on: Today at 08:00:39 »

21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04

12/05/25 21:45 Penzance to London Paddington due 05:04 has been delayed at Camborne and is now 126 minutes late.

This is due to the emergency services dealing with an incident.
And didn't make any time up enroute, odd.
Such a slack scheduled running time to boot.
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« Reply #1975 on: Today at 08:31:56 »

And didn't make any time up enroute, odd.
Such a slack scheduled running time to boot.

* Longer time at EXD» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) than it should have been.
* Via Honiton which probably makes it less slack
* Relief line most of the way from Reading to Paddington and at a time when Liz Line service running

Silly question - how many customers actually want to arrive in London before 07:00 anyway?
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« Reply #1976 on: Today at 08:51:25 »

Silly question - how many customers actually want to arrive in London before 07:00 anyway?

Not many.

In fact with delay repay I expect most would be pretty happy.

Not ideal for passengers joining at stations enroute of course, but hopefully they would all be understanding of the reason.
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Silly question - how many customers actually want to arrive in London before 07:00 anyway?

Not many.

In fact with delay repay I expect most would be pretty happy.

Not ideal for passengers joining at stations enroute of course, but hopefully they would all be understanding of the reason.

Given the economics of sleeper services would it be justified to modify their delay repay conditions?

It's awkward as some may be heading for onward connections and need that early arrival time - but their needs may be better met by them having travel insurance to cover disruption, which might meet the actual costs they may incur.

The Paddington arrival being ~05:04 and cabins to be vacated by 06:45, if GWR (Great Western Railway) honours delay repay on the basis of that 5:04 arrival there must be many many travellers who'd regard anything before a 6:45 arrival as meeting their needs (and quite a few who'd be fine with 8am but of course Paddington needs the platform...) If, on the occasion that the service arrives an hour down, GWR are meeting a lot of delay repay claims on the basis of that 5:04 arrival it might be that they're compensating some for the hour or more that they'd have spent snoozing anyway.

More relaxed arrangements for delay repay on sleeper services might be for the general good as long as the railway doesn't then regard itself as deincentivised to run the services to time - but again, the avoidable costs involved in tying up a platform in the morning peak should address that.

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