No ticket barriers for Grade II listed station at York?

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[paul7575]

Having said that I am tired of TOCs^▸ (Train Operating Company) using the 'security' argument for barrier installation. Tell it like it is; revenue protection. Nothing more, nothing less.

I too think they misuse the term 'security'. I think the public think of the word in the contect of anti - terrorism nowadays. But they do seem (as evidenced by LO) to have a beneficial effect in reducing minor crime, vandalism, late night rowdiness, etc, so I'd go with that as a good reason too...

Paul

[Btline]

What I never get with some barrier lines, is why they don't put as many barriers as possible.

Brighton, London Marylebone and Birmingham Snow Hill are examples were there is a short barrier line, with just a glass wall for half of it.

[caliwag]

Mmm...nothing officilially submitted yet, however.

If it is a franchise commitment, I'd be keen to see the source.

As has been suggested before, what stops punters buying a ticket to a local station...get through the barrier, and then blag their way South or North?

I still maintain that the threat of a team of roving inspectors passing through a train, randomly, must be a great detterent...and in the evenings would give the travelling public fantastic reassurance...mere presence.

[paul7575]

Re NXEC^▸ (National Express East Coast) franchise requirements:

Interoperable Smartcard technology will be introduced to the new franchise.  Bidders will need to provide an ITSO-compliant ticketing system comprising ticket-issuing equipment, readers/validators and appropriate gating throughout the franchise, and the necessary back-office functionality, by January 2010.  This means that equipment is capable of accepting other smart cards and has the potential to extend the convenience and ease of smartcard technology to more passengers. Existing smart ticketing schemes in the franchise area should be considered, including Yorcard in South Yorkshire.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/passenger/franchises/icecf1/stakeholderbriefingdocument?page=4

Paul

[caliwag]

Thanks Paul...I am old and plainly thick, because that lot means little to me. Common sense suggests that uniformed bods passing through a train...unannounced will ensure that the vast majority will not try to busk their way through the journey.

Strangely York station was again full of plods, yesterday, apparently randomly searcing peoples' bags...very strange. I'll probably get a knock on the door tomorrow, given the way things appear to be going, but given the level of cable theft in the north, do we not think they could be better employed?

[Chris from Nailsea]

... uniformed bods passing through a train ... unannounced will ensure that the vast majority will not try to busk their way through the journey ...

That certainly seemed to work, when I was in Paris: see http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=5066.msg46918#msg46918