Invisible short forming

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[IanC]

As seen on the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) Live updates just now:-

"12:30 Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour due 15:54
20 May 2010

This train will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 2".

[tramway]

Maybe this is how FGW^▸ (First Great Western) have managed their 'improved' MPC^▸ (Miles Per Casualty - How many miles a train manages between breakdowns) figure so well publisiced in RAIL 640 recently.

Although you would never have guessed it from the number of short formed there have been over recent weeks.

[devon_metro]

Its a typo, the 1230 CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) PMH is booked 3 car 158/9

[Brucey]

Its a typo, the 1230 CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) PMH is booked 3 car 158/9

Slightly off topic, but there is any way of finding out what type of set is due to operate any particular service?  Or is this only available internally within FGW^▸ (First Great Western)?

[devon_metro]

Its internal info from FGW^▸ (First Great Western), train diagrams with certain services and the train type basically. The last diagrams I saw had "Confidential" at the top, so you'd need to know somebody "inside" to access them.

However its safe to say nearly all CDF^» (Cardiff - next trains) PMH are 3 car 158/9.

[James158]

I have also noticed this on the FGW^▸ (First Great Western) Website. This must of been a typing error. Pretty funny though.

[RichieG]

Its internal info from FGW^▸ (First Great Western), train diagrams with certain services and the train type basically. The last diagrams I saw had "Confidential" at the top, so you'd need to know somebody "inside" to access them.

Would a Freedom of Information Request supply this info? I recently requested from TfL^» (Transport for London - about) the working timetables for London Underground and was supplied despite 'Confidential - Staff Use Only' printed on each one.

Slightly (but only just) more on-topic, have there been any cases where a train has been 'formed of 3 coaches instead of 2' (or a similar enlargened train instead of a shortened train)?

[Ollie]

Its internal info from FGW^▸ (First Great Western), train diagrams with certain services and the train type basically. The last diagrams I saw had "Confidential" at the top, so you'd need to know somebody "inside" to access them.

Would a Freedom of Information Request supply this info? I recently requested from TfL^» (Transport for London - about) the working timetables for London Underground and was supplied despite 'Confidential - Staff Use Only' printed on each one.

Slightly (but only just) more on-topic, have there been any cases where a train has been 'formed of 3 coaches instead of 2' (or a similar enlargened train instead of a shortened train)?

Point One: Unlikely, don't see why you need to know what a particular set is 'meant' to be working, baring in mind it doesn't always stick to the diagram.

Point Two: Yeah sometimes get extra carriages, I personally not seen it often though.

[RichieG]

Point One: Unlikely, don't see why you need to know what a particular set is 'meant' to be working, baring in mind it doesn't always stick to the diagram.

Slightly off topic, but there is any way of finding out what type of set is due to operate any particular service?  Or is this only available internally within FGW^▸ (First Great Western)?

(edited to fix bad nesting)

[Ollie]

I know journey planners in ticket offices can usually give an idea of what is meant to working, but it doesn't specify the class of the train.

Trust would go into more detail, or if the train is already running, I know FGW^▸ (First Great Western) ticket offices have access to P2 which is a train mapping system showing train movements, and this in most cases would show what set is working the train.