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« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2026, 19:54:51 »

Further to my recent posts, I have now moved and merged a few previous posts on the Coffee Shop forum in to this topic here.

May I offer my recognition and respects to, in particular, two of the members of the Red Arrows team who sadly died recently.

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2026, 22:32:55 »

From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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British firm vying to build next Red Arrows jets goes into administration

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The Hawk T1 jet, as used by the Red Arrows, will go out of service in 2030

A British aerospace company that was developing a replacement for the famous Red Arrows fighter jet has gone into administration, resulting in the loss of about 30 jobs.

Aeralis had pitched itself as the only British firm able to supply a new advanced jet trainer that would be designed and built in the UK (United Kingdom). The firm was hoping the UK government would award it a contract to replace the Hawk jets currently flown by the RAF (Royal Air Force)'s Red Arrows before they are due to be retired in 2030.

The administrators said the company had faced "a sustained period of pressure" on its cashflow after "continued delays to the UK Defence Investment Plan, combined with geopolitical factors affecting sources of funding".

A Ministry of Defence (MoD) spokesperson said: "The fast jet trainer programme is ongoing and no final procurement decisions have been made. More broadly, this government is backing British jobs, British industry, and British innovators - since July 2024, we have signed 1,200 major contracts, with 93% of the spend going to UK-based companies."

The BBC has been told the company's main investor Barzan Holdings, the strategic investment and procurement arm of Qatar's Ministry of Defence, withdrew its funding amid the US-Israeli war with Iran. A potential agreement Aeralis was exploring to make jets for the French government also failed to materialise. The company filed for administration on Friday.

In a statement, Joanne Milner from administrators Buchler Phillips, said: "Aeralis has developed a highly differentiated proposition within the aerospace and defence sector. We hope that the administration process will provide an opportunity to explore routes to preserve and develop that value for stakeholders."

Aeralis chairman Robin Southwell said the decision to go into administration had been taken after "careful consideration of the company's position and the funding challenges it has faced over recent months. We will continue to support the joint administrators as they explore viable, sustainable options for the future of the business and engage with interested parties."

In an interview prior to Aeralis going into administration, Southwell told the BBC the delay in the investment plan was making life "very difficult for companies such as ours and others". He urged the UK government to give "clarity and direction" to the MoD to "allow companies like ours to start generating the jobs, opportunities, ambitions and exports that this country clearly needs".

Last year, the UK government's Strategic Defence Review recommended the Hawks should be replaced by a "cost-effective, advanced trainer jet". The review suggests that MoD procurement should prioritise British businesses to benefit the UK economy.

The MoD is considering options to replace the Hawk jets. Aircraft offered by BAE Systems, Leonardo and several other companies are also considered to be contenders to replace the Hawk but no decisions have been made.

The long-awaited investment plan to deliver the review's recommendations has been delayed significantly and Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer is facing growing pressure to publish it. This week, Sir Keir told MPs (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) the defence investment plan was being "finalised" as he outlined his government's legislative programme in the King's Speech.

Last month Lord Robertson, the former Labour defence secretary who wrote the Strategic Defence Review, accused Sir Keir's government of showing "corrosive complacency" on defence.

Southwell said Aeralis had been talking to the French government about the possibility of building its jet in the country. But Aeralis's preference was to design and manufacture parts of its advanced trainer jet at the company's sites across the UK, before assembling the aircraft at Prestwick International Airport in Ayrshire, Scotland.

The company estimates that its programme could have created 4,000 new jobs in the UK and generate £600m in annual exports. But the aircraft has only been designed digitally at this stage, with the company saying it needed government backing to start production.

Justin Bronk, a senior research fellow at the RUSI think tank, said the Aeralis option was "purely theoretical, and its only attraction is the promise of UK jobs at some point".

"Its downsides include high programme and development risks, and long realistic timeframes until any serviceable aircraft might be delivered, compared to alternatives that already exist," Bronk said.

He added: "A strong fast jet training pipeline is fundamental to all other UK combat air capabilities, so risk should not be taken with ensuring it is modernised rapidly and with high levels of assurance."

Bronk said jet trainers developed by Leonardo, or Boeing/Saab in partnership with BAE Systems, were "low-risk, high-quality" options that "could be delivered from the late 2020s".

BAE Systems is working with US manufacturer Boeing and Sweden's Saab to develop the T-7 jet into a replacement for the Hawk, and has committed to assembling the aircraft in the UK.

"Our joint approach brings together three leading global defence primes at the heart of UK combat air capability, offering the UK a next-generation, cost‑effective, capable and reliable solution," a BAE Systems spokesperson said.

Leonardo, an Italian company with operations in the UK, told the BBC its M-346 jet was "being assessed as an option for a number of emerging requirements".

"We will work with UK industrial partners to provide a compelling, UK low risk solution to the RAF advanced jet training requirement based on our proven and highly successful International Flying Training System," a Leonardo spokesperson said.

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2026, 22:38:54 »

An update, from the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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The Red Arrows will get new jets as part of a £15bn increase in military spending, the government has announced.

According to the UK (United Kingdom)'s defence investment plan (DIP), the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has committed to investing £360m in developing a new "British Jet Trainer System", which will include "new jets for the Red Arrows to replace the ageing Hawk aircraft".

Last month, the team said it would fly with fewer aircraft at most displays in a bid to extend the lifespan of the Hawk, which entered service in the 1980s.

Welcoming the announcement, former Red Arrows pilot Andy Wyatt said: "It provides much-needed certainty that the process of replacing the Hawk aircraft is finally moving forward."

He said: "The aircraft chosen must meet the RAF (Royal Air Force)'s operational requirements, but I hope equal weight will be given to supporting British engineering, protecting highly skilled jobs and preserving sovereign aerospace capability.

"The aircraft carrying the famous red, white and blue smoke for decades to come should be a symbol of the very best that Britain can design, build and support."

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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

"Level crossings are safe, unless they are used in an unsafe manner."  Discuss.
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2026, 08:58:52 »

'Smoke' is famous now, I read.

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