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| Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ? In "Across the West" [376197/32138/26] Posted by rogerw at 10:09, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
You can't get a Cross Country train from Plymouth to Essex and East Anglia. You are expected to change in London (Crossrail has made that easier); so for Plymouth trains, why go further than Birmingham which could be the hub for the north. Maybe on a Saturday there is a justification for Penzance-Scotland but I doubt it.
Not everybody starts from Plymouth. There are a significant number of journeys from the southwest to Derby and north thereof which cross Birmingham. A change at Birmingham is not easy and passengers prefer through trains. My last 2 journeys on Cross Country were Bristol Parkway to York and Edinburgh to Bristol Parkway. I would not have welcomed a change at Birmingham| Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ? In "Across the West" [376196/32138/26] Posted by NickB at 09:58, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
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| Re: Where am I this morning? 20th June 2026 In "The Lighter Side" [376195/32153/30] Posted by stuving at 09:48, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
Of the ones in between, "yesterday"'s train says "Zou!" so (given the OLE) that must be the Riviera line. I'm sure it's Antibes. The one before appears to belong to Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, but they have several minor lines in the mountains and loads of stations along them it might be.
| Re: Fewer trains in the South West when nationalised? In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376194/32155/40] Posted by John D at 09:24, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
Even though latest quarterly ORR figures show railway as a whole busier than pre-Covid, SWR are still operating some Covid era cuts eg Hounslow loop just half hourly instead of quarter hourly.
It's true that some commuter routes are less busy during school summer holidays, so as per DfT dictat can pare down some routes. Although using same argument some leisure and beach routes are busier, but don't get enhanced service during summer, so is very one sided argument.
SWR has become a fairly uncomfortable Operator, with a pack them in mentality. They have reduced first class on 444s to 2+2 seats (even though many services operated are 2+ hour, and some early and late ones 3+ hour). On commuter services the 2017 ordered 701s have finally entered service replacing 41-44 year old 455s. 701s have just 556 narrow seats, for many years an 8 car 455 had nearer 640 seats.
After a year of nationalisation doesn't appear to be any order for the diesel routes, even though trains already 34-37 years old.
Nationalisation appears to be generic term for make do and mend and expect worst service and comfort.
| Re: Where am I this morning? 20th June 2026 In "The Lighter Side" [376193/32153/30] Posted by Mark A at 09:17, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
Naples... ?
Mark
[edited to add a question mark]
| Re: Fewer trains in the South West when nationalised? In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376192/32155/40] Posted by Mark A at 09:07, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
Hmm. 'Match supply and demand' cuts both ways. Many others see a heavily capacity constrained system with a level of provision that ensures that financial instability is baked in.
Mark
I am very much aware that I would make a poor politician, and no more so than when I respond to a series of questions. I tend to answer the questions that were asked, and to cover all aspects of the answer including elements which do me no favours. "I don't know" or "I am on thin ice on that one". I don't answer a different question to the one asked and use the question as an opening for getting a different message across, and nor do I extent the question and answer to get in other useful information. I know my failings.
I wrote a long answer on some very technical local rail issues the other day - it stretched to a dozen pages - and was plased with what I wrote. But in hingsight, I did not cover other useful associated topics because I wasn't asked about them.
What was NOT asked, then? What did I not talk about but is part of the picture?
* Open Access operators such as Go-op and Arriva?
* Chippenham 3rd platform
* Salisbury platforms 1 and 5 for passengers
* Penryn solution at Melksham
* Lacock and Staverton in the mix?
* What would the service pattern look like?
* Bus integration, walking and cycling improvements, finding taxis
* Customer Information at the NaPTAN
* Recasting services to better suit (who's?) needs
* Passenger advocacy and how that works for a better transport network
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [376190/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:54, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
Delays to services at London Paddington
Due to damage to the overhead electric wires at London Paddington trains have to run at reduced speed on the line.
Train services running to and from this station may be delayed. Disruption is expected until 10:00 21/06.
| Re: Weather updates from across the UK and implications for infrastructure - 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376189/31355/51] Posted by broadgage at 08:33, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
The previous highest temperature for June is 35.6 degrees. It seems likely that this record will be broken in the next few days,with 36 forecast for London.
| Fewer trains in the South West when nationalised? In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [376188/32155/40] Posted by grahame at 08:03, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
From the Wiltshire Times
Passengers across Wiltshire and the South West could face fewer train services under Labour’s rail nationalisation plans, according to the head of Great Western Railway’s parent company.
Graham Sutherland, chief executive of FirstGroup, which owns Great Western Railway (GWR), said cuts already being introduced on other parts of the rail network could become more widespread as the Government brings train operators under public ownership.
GWR, which serves Wiltshire, Bristol, Cornwall, Devon, Gloucestershire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, Herefordshire and South Wales, is due to be nationalised on December 13 as part of the Government’s plans to create Great British Railways.
Mr Sutherland said timetable reductions being introduced by operators including Avanti West Coast and Thameslink were an early indication of how ministers may seek to reduce costs by matching train services more closely to passenger demand.
He said: “There are a lot of services running that really don’t have very much demand for them, so I think over the long term it’s right to begin to match supply and demand.”
Graham Sutherland, chief executive of FirstGroup, which owns Great Western Railway (GWR), said cuts already being introduced on other parts of the rail network could become more widespread as the Government brings train operators under public ownership.
GWR, which serves Wiltshire, Bristol, Cornwall, Devon, Gloucestershire, Berkshire, Oxfordshire, Herefordshire and South Wales, is due to be nationalised on December 13 as part of the Government’s plans to create Great British Railways.
Mr Sutherland said timetable reductions being introduced by operators including Avanti West Coast and Thameslink were an early indication of how ministers may seek to reduce costs by matching train services more closely to passenger demand.
He said: “There are a lot of services running that really don’t have very much demand for them, so I think over the long term it’s right to begin to match supply and demand.”
Sadly, I can't disagree with the risk. Much is unsaid in nationalisation plans - for example there is talk of "a more reliable" service but not of any sort of frequency, and these is talk of a "simplified fare system" without talk of better value / lower fares.
There used to be stats about half the stations generating only 5% of the traffic / income ...
| Re: How would YOU solve CrossCountry ? In "Across the West" [376187/32138/26] Posted by REVUpminster at 07:32, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
You can't get a Cross Country train from Plymouth to Essex and East Anglia. You are expected to change in London (Crossrail has made that easier); so for Plymouth trains, why go further than Birmingham which could be the hub for the north. Maybe on a Saturday there is a justification for Penzance-Scotland but I doubt it.
| Re: Where am I this morning? 20th June 2026 In "The Lighter Side" [376186/32153/30] Posted by grahame at 07:20, 21st June 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Austerlitz ... remains a building site in hall 1, and a dark cavern that makes New Street's platforms feel positively friendly in hall 2. And it seems to be the last bastion of loco-hauled and coaches operation. Gare de Lyon was all units - singles which I think can run in multiple, or running as multiples. I have seen electric locos on coaches / push-pull with driving trailers on the front when the loco is on the rear in many other countries.
To solve the picture - yesterday morning was Porto Torres Maratime on Sardinia Ferry arrived at 07:30, train left at 09:55 with a handful of people on board. I took a break at Sassari to travel on one of the few remaining narrow gauge lines on the island.
Sharing here what I wrote on Facebook
Smoking, Vaping, Drinking, Sunning, Sweating, Sheltering, Socialising. Living in apartment blocks surround by randomly parked vehicles wherever they fit, busy roads with vehicles perhaps cruising to find spaces. They may be nice inside, but the external aesthetics shout functionallity. Local culture - there may be some but the bar names and menus are in English.
Alghero is at the end of a narrow gauge railway that's not on my pass, but I visited for and extra £5 as it's one of the few remaining parts of the narrow network on Sardinia. Even this has been cut back to the top of the town - you can see where the tracks used to go.
Finding out the train times was a challenge. The line starts in Sassari, where the station has three working platforms and a ticket office labelled "We do not sell tickets for Alghero". The standard European departure sheets don't show these trains either. The "Sardinian Green Train" website tells us about the weekly special excursions on some of the otherwise abandoned lines where they are still passable. The ARST website (they run the narrow gauge trains) proudly concentrated on their buses, but I *had* actually found a timetable. Trains differ totally on Sundays from the rest of the week, but they are all in one table there than needs very careful reading. When I reached Sassari, I bought my ticket at the station newsagent and tobacconist kiosk - where the gent checked my timings an reassured me I was correct in my reading, and I could make a round trip before the next main line train, some 4 and a half hours later.
A modern 2 carriage train, and it would seem that while I had some problems knowing when it ran, others did not. Before we set off, it was full (almost) and some standing. Made me feel old - VERY old - young people off for a day on the beach, well behaved and laughing and joking between themselves. No-one got off at intermediate stations; more joined at Olmedo where we passed a train going the other way.
The station at Alghero has clearly seen better / busier days. Apart from the platform we arrived at, two others are rusted and there's other track work that hasn't seen a train, I suspect, this millenium. A crossover to allow run-rounds, and a turntable - redundant too now that the trains are current generation diesel units. An hourly service is possible with the loop half way, and that's probably more than enough. And I note that trains can be coupled and run in pairs.
I bought myself a can of cold Sprite in the station cafe. Two big fridges full of beer, blokes sat at tables drinking been, smoking, talking back and forth. I eased my way through to the smaller fridge of soft drinks that was tucked behind. I really have no desire to dull my senses in the middle of the day which I know a beer would do in this heat. The return train was much quieter - still a goodly number of passengers through to Sassari. The countryside here is interesting. Low but steep hills with patches of trees between tree grown, and rocky limestone (?) outcrops. Some sections of the railway have been rebuilt to eliminate some twists and turns, but other sections are still torturous.
I'm glad I took a look at Alghero, but it's not on my list to return. Seen enough. Sassari may warrant a return visit; I had an hour to look around but felt there was still more to see; had to rush back to the station.
Alghero is at the end of a narrow gauge railway that's not on my pass, but I visited for and extra £5 as it's one of the few remaining parts of the narrow network on Sardinia. Even this has been cut back to the top of the town - you can see where the tracks used to go.
Finding out the train times was a challenge. The line starts in Sassari, where the station has three working platforms and a ticket office labelled "We do not sell tickets for Alghero". The standard European departure sheets don't show these trains either. The "Sardinian Green Train" website tells us about the weekly special excursions on some of the otherwise abandoned lines where they are still passable. The ARST website (they run the narrow gauge trains) proudly concentrated on their buses, but I *had* actually found a timetable. Trains differ totally on Sundays from the rest of the week, but they are all in one table there than needs very careful reading. When I reached Sassari, I bought my ticket at the station newsagent and tobacconist kiosk - where the gent checked my timings an reassured me I was correct in my reading, and I could make a round trip before the next main line train, some 4 and a half hours later.
A modern 2 carriage train, and it would seem that while I had some problems knowing when it ran, others did not. Before we set off, it was full (almost) and some standing. Made me feel old - VERY old - young people off for a day on the beach, well behaved and laughing and joking between themselves. No-one got off at intermediate stations; more joined at Olmedo where we passed a train going the other way.
The station at Alghero has clearly seen better / busier days. Apart from the platform we arrived at, two others are rusted and there's other track work that hasn't seen a train, I suspect, this millenium. A crossover to allow run-rounds, and a turntable - redundant too now that the trains are current generation diesel units. An hourly service is possible with the loop half way, and that's probably more than enough. And I note that trains can be coupled and run in pairs.
I bought myself a can of cold Sprite in the station cafe. Two big fridges full of beer, blokes sat at tables drinking been, smoking, talking back and forth. I eased my way through to the smaller fridge of soft drinks that was tucked behind. I really have no desire to dull my senses in the middle of the day which I know a beer would do in this heat. The return train was much quieter - still a goodly number of passengers through to Sassari. The countryside here is interesting. Low but steep hills with patches of trees between tree grown, and rocky limestone (?) outcrops. Some sections of the railway have been rebuilt to eliminate some twists and turns, but other sections are still torturous.
I'm glad I took a look at Alghero, but it's not on my list to return. Seen enough. Sassari may warrant a return visit; I had an hour to look around but felt there was still more to see; had to rush back to the station.
I will add that I respect other's rights to enjoy those pastimes - just not for me. And I do (now) know that there's some pretty parts in Alghero - just a long way from where the only station is now.
There are 4 trains a day Sassari to Cagliari and it's 260 kms - about the same distance as from Exeter to London. Other trains come in along the way from Olbia, and a further set start at Macomer. We set off on time at 14:37 but got held up on the approach to Ozieri-Chilivani - reason not clear to me but could well have been signalling issues - and we dragged into the station there about 20 minutes late which was enough to put us out-of-path
The line is single all the way from Sassari as far as San Gavino - three quarters of the way to Cagliari - and the policy is clearly than once a train is delayed, in waits at loops (and there seem to be a reasonable number of those) for other trains - having one train seriously delayed rather than knocking out the entire system. Even south of Macomer the service is sparse enough to do that without the next train catching up and being delayed as well.
We arrived into Cagliari at 19:05, versus a schedule of 17:50. And I am here today until a minute to midnight, on the ferry to Naples.
| Re: Server slow ... In "News, Help and Assistance" [376185/30293/29] Posted by grahame at 02:55, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
There have been a couple of "abnormal loads" on the worker server today. I *am* aware and will look through the logs overnight. The server emails me when it's in trouble and typical recovers over a few minutes when these things happen.
Normal request load is around 100 to 150 requests per minute. That rose to over 3,000 requests in the minutes that our server load spiked - automated requests systematically looking for URLs which are admin accesses to standard web server software that webmasters can accidentally leave open. I have characterised the requests and our server should now turn away such requests more quickly.
It probably wasn't designed as a specific attack on our server, and it wasn't on one of the main domains served - rather more I would see it as a piece of rogue software from a "naughty-boy" trawling the web through web sites that owners may have forgotten about / left insecure.
| Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376184/32151/51] Posted by grahame at 02:08, 21st June 2026 | ![]() |
As an administrator on this Coffee Shop forum, may I thank all of our members here for your restrained, non-speculative, posts about this sad incident.
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch will indeed discover all of the facts, and provide us with a definitive report, in due course.
CfN. -X
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch will indeed discover all of the facts, and provide us with a definitive report, in due course.
CfN. -X
Well confirmed, Chris. This is one of the most difficult "fine line"s that we tread on the Coffee Shop. I am reminded of a level crossing accident on The Marches line where it was obviously a car driver error - except that it turned out that it wasn't.
The aspect displayed by 358 upon the departure of the 360 will be interesting to discover.
The signalling maps show 358 displayed a single yellow.
356 displayed a red and then stepped up to a single yellow to crossover once the IET had cleared the section
154 remained at Red protecting the IET. 154 is not TPWS fitted.
This is what the signalling maps show but it must be remembered that the maps show what the signals are expected to show. This doesn’t confirm what the signals show on the ground.
This type of routing does carry a risk, especially if this is the usual type of routing.
What happens at 154 is key, especially with the AWS.
| Re: Recycling rubbish and charity shops - something of a minefield? Ongoing discussion In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [376182/30854/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:32, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
Here in Nailsea, we have the benefit of a latter-day Steptoe & Son, who drive along our road every week in their pickup truck with a loudhailer asking for 'any old iron?'
They aren't choosy - any scrap metal will do (I noticed that the only thing they didn't want was a neighbour's old fridge/freezer).
We don't have to do anything, other than put our unwanted metal items out on the drive, where they can be seen from the road. Even if we don't hear the loudhailer (unlikely), they will come to the front door, just to confirm, "Is that to go?".
Recently, we updated our cooker and removed a redundant overhead extractor fan unit. My daughter and I will put those out on the drive and see how long it takes Steptoe & Son to snap them up.
They aren't choosy - any scrap metal will do (I noticed that the only thing they didn't want was a neighbour's old fridge/freezer).
We don't have to do anything, other than put our unwanted metal items out on the drive, where they can be seen from the road. Even if we don't hear the loudhailer (unlikely), they will come to the front door, just to confirm, "Is that to go?".
Recently, we updated our cooker and removed a redundant overhead extractor fan unit. My daughter and I will put those out on the drive and see how long it takes Steptoe & Son to snap them up.

An update from me: those scrap metal collectors were enthusiastic to be offered two slightly rusty bikes, our old electric cooker, overhead extractor fan, grill pans and filters. Basically, anything with some metal in it.

I shall do some more digging around, in our garage, to see whether there's anything else they can take away.
CfN.

As an administrator on this Coffee Shop forum, may I thank all of our members here for your restrained, non-speculative, posts about this sad incident.
The Rail Accident Investigation Branch will indeed discover all of the facts, and provide us with a definitive report, in due course.
CfN. -X
| Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376179/32151/51] Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:04, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
The aspect displayed by 358 upon the departure of the 360 will be interesting to discover.
| Re: Senior Railcard - some issues, developments and ongoing discussion In "Fare's Fair" [376178/26533/4] Posted by ChrisB at 21:00, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
They do if you buy / renew online.
| Re: Two East Midlands Railway trains collide near Bedford, 19th June 2026 In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [376177/32151/51] Posted by ChrisB at 20:54, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
Peter Hicks on X
Some context on the events at Elstow/Bedford this evening. There is a lot you can tell from train describer data on @OpenTrainTimes, however there is a lot of information that you cannot determine. The purple trace is the Class 360's movements, the green is the 810's.


and this has happened before (two trains in same section)
https://www.gov.uk/raib-reports/report-11-slash-2023-two-trains-in-the-same-signal-section-at-south-wingfield
| Re: Senior Railcard - some issues, developments and ongoing discussion In "Fare's Fair" [376175/26533/4] Posted by PhilWakely at 20:28, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
If you purchased your railcard from the ticket office, you will not have had a reminder letter. I know that railcard forms are sent off to Swindon, but TBMK they are just filed away. Why would you need to complete a new full application form if the powers that be knew your renewal date? I believe this is a major flaw in the system! If they have a database of season tickets, why not of railcards?
| Re: OTD - Queen Victoria was the first reigning British monarch to travel on a train In "Railway History and related topics" [376174/32130/55] Posted by stuving at 20:16, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
The first journey by a reigning British monarch on a train was made by Queen Victoria on June 13, 1842. She traveled on the British Royal Train from Slough to London’s Paddington Station, completing the trip in 25 minutes.
Who had been using this royal train if Victoria never had?
| Re: OTD - Queen Victoria was the first reigning British monarch to travel on a train In "Railway History and related topics" [376173/32130/55] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:58, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
Did Her Majesty complain about that?
No, probably not.

| Re: Senior Railcard - some issues, developments and ongoing discussion In "Fare's Fair" [376172/26533/4] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:56, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
Fair comment, ChrisB, but it wasn't a straight renewal: I was using a different e-mail address, so I had to set it up as a new application.
No problem at all, the cards merely overlap by one day.

| Re: Server slow ... In "News, Help and Assistance" [376171/30293/29] Posted by grahame at 19:51, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
There have been a couple of "abnormal loads" on the worker server today. I *am* aware and will look through the logs overnight. The server emails me when it's in trouble and typical recovers over a few minutes when these things happen.
| Re: Senior Railcard - some issues, developments and ongoing discussion In "Fare's Fair" [376170/26533/4] Posted by ChrisB at 19:48, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
If they knew it was a renewal, shouldn't they have started the new one on the day after the old one expired?
| Re: OTD - Queen Victoria was the first reigning British monarch to travel on a train In "Railway History and related topics" [376169/32130/55] Posted by Oxonhutch at 19:28, 20th June 2026 | ![]() |
... She traveled on the British Royal Train from Slough to London’s Paddington Station, completing the trip in 25 minutes.
Apparently she hated travelling at speed as well, being familiar with horse drawn transport. Her fastest journey ever was her funeral train from Gosport to London which was running late.














