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Heathfield Tunnel reopens to walkers for 60th anniversary
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362224/30355/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 21:30, 13th June 2025
 
From the BBC

An East Sussex tunnel which was last used by passenger trains 60 years ago will be reopened to pedestrians for one weekend.

Volunteers have spent thousands of hours restoring the 256 yard (242m) Heathfield Tunnel to open to the public on 13, 14 and 15 June from 10:00 to 17:00 BST.

The tunnel was once part of the now disused Cuckoo Line, running from Polegate to Eridge via Heathfield, which was fully opened in 1880 and closed to passengers in 1965.

The reopening is part of Spa Valley Railway's Cuckoo Line gala, marking 60 years since the rail line was shut to passenger trains following a recommendation by the British Railways Board.

The last passenger train to run through the Heathfield Tunnel on 12 June 1965 was a BR Standard 4MT 80144.

The tunnel remained open to freight trains until 1968 and was closed to pedestrians in 2015.

The train line's name came from a tradition at the Heathfield Fair where the "first cuckoo of Spring would be released", says Spa Valley Railway.

In the 1990s, the Polegate to Heathfield portion on the track was turned into the 10.4-mile Cuckoo Trail, jointly owned by Wealden District Council and East Sussex County Council.

Six steam and diesel locomotives once used on the Cuckoo Line will run from Tunbridge Wells West to Eridge via Groombridge as part of the celebrations.

A spokesperson for Spa Valley Railway said: "This is as close as we're probably going to get to recreating the Cuckoo Line."

Paddington Station
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [362223/30354/49]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:03, 13th June 2025
 
From MyLondon:

Jeremy Clarkson names the 'coolest' thing in London - and it's inside a train station

The Clarkson's Farm star reckons this is better than Tower Bridge

Jeremy Clarkson has named the best thing in London - and it's great news for all the train buffs out there. The presenter-turned-farmer revealed he has a soft spot for the glazed roof of Paddington station due to the intricate work of engineer Isambard Kingdom Brunel.

Speaking in a video posted to partner Lisa Hogan's Instagram, the 65-year-old believes the Victorian-era station should be considered amongst the capital's greatest attractions. He said: "While people come to see Natural History Museum, Tower of London or Tower Bridge, the roof of Paddington station is THE coolest thing in London, the most beautiful thing in London." The Clarkson's Farm host went on to explain the beams above the tracks were supposedly designed with holes so scaffolding could be passed through them, allowing workers to easily clean the glass. However, if you look closely you'll spot the gaps on the support girders also depict the sun, moon and stars.



Opened in 1854, Paddington Station as we know it now was the jewel in Brunel's construction of the Great Western Railway, acting as a grand terminus for his greatest feat. However, he was first forced to create a temporary station amid soaring costs building the mainline. This utilised the arches of Bishop's Bridge Road and was used by passengers for nearly two decades. Unable to let his vision go, Brunel convinced railway bosses to build a bigger station to keep up with increased demand. He was deeply inspired by the Crystal Palace, built in 1851 for the Great Exhibition. Similarities between the two buildings can be seen to the current day in his use of wrought iron and glass panes.

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Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [362222/593/9]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:14, 13th June 2025
 
The full press release can be found here, on Gov.uk

Oxford businesses to receive goodwill payments for Botley Road disruption

Network Rail will write to the affected local businesses that qualify to receive a share of up to £850,000 this week.

- government confirms up to £850,000 in payments to Oxfordshire businesses impacted by Network Rail disruption
- some small, local businesses most impacted by delayed works may be eligible to receive one-off, goodwill payments to acknowledge disruption caused
- Rail Minister, Lord Hendy, visits site to see progress on the Botley Road works – on track to be fully completed next summer

Some small businesses in Oxford most affected by works at Botley Road station may be eligible to receive goodwill payments, following the government today (13 June 2025) confirming up to £850,000 of Network Rail funding to acknowledge the local disruption.   The funding was confirmed today as the Rail Minister, Lord Hendy, visited the site to see Network Rail’s progress on the major improvements to the city’s railway station and Botley Road as part of the Oxford Station Enhancements Project. 

The one-off goodwill payments are being offered in recognition of the disruption resulting from delays to the scheme, which businesses can apply to Network Rail for.

Network Rail will write to the affected businesses this week who qualify for this financial support and a process is being developed to take discussions further.

However, following a reset of the project in January, progress has been made and Network Rail are on track to deliver the new cycle and walkway in August 2025 and will fully reopen Botley Road in August 2026.

Rail Minister, Lord Hendy, said:

I’m pleased that Network Rail can now offer payments to those eligible small, local businesses affected and while it can’t undo all the hardship businesses have faced, it recognises the trouble the delays have caused.

I’m glad the project is now on track. I will continue to hold Network Rail to account and engage with the local community. 

I look forward to the scheme being completed, so Oxford can benefit from more frequent and accessible transport links to boost growth in this bustling city.

Following delays owing to the discovery of a large Victorian arch under Botley Road and difficulties moving water pipes, Network Rail launched a new plan to keep the project moving forward early this year. 

Since the reset, the project has hit key milestones, including the early completion of a new clean water pipe by Thames Water. The next big step is to divert the sewer system, which is on track to finish later this year.

Marcus Jones, Network Rail’s Western Route Director, said:

We know the delays to this project have been frustrating, and we’re sorry for the disruption they’ve caused. The good news is that the project is now firmly back on track, and we’re making strong progress. We’re committed to keeping the community informed as we deliver a safer, more accessible Oxford station for everyone.

Network Rail has been keeping the community informed through monthly public events and business workshops, offering updates and support. New banners, posters and digital screens have also been put up around the station and Botley Road to keep everyone updated and remind people that local businesses are open as usual. The free Botley Flyer bus service now runs 7 days a week, helping people get to the city centre and extra security measures have been put in place to keep pedestrians safe.

Additional support includes new disabled drop-off bays, an audio guide map for easier navigation and improved lighting and CCTV around the station.

Network Rail will set out the process for applying in the coming weeks.[/quoe]

Re: Oxford station - facilities, improvements, parking, incidents and events - merged posts
In "London to Didcot, Oxford and Banbury" [362221/593/9]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:09, 13th June 2025
 
From Rail Advent:

£850,000 to be given out to Oxford businesses due to Botley Road disruption



Businesses in Oxford may be able to receive goodwill payments in recognition of the disruption caused by the Botley Road scheme.

Rail Minister, Lord Hendy, visited the site today to confirm the funding and to see progress on the improvements taking place.

Network Rail will write to affected businesses this week with more details.

A new cycle and walkway will open in August 2025 following progress being made and Botley Road will fully open in August 2026.

Rail Minister, Lord Hendy, said: “I’m pleased that Network Rail can now offer payments to those eligible small, local businesses affected, and while it can’t undo all the hardship businesses have faced, it recognises the trouble the delays have caused."



Re: Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services
In "TransWilts line" [362220/11010/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:32, 13th June 2025
Already liked by TonyK, TaplowGreen
 
Depends on how much you want to flog a dead horse I suppose.

While I have previously held back from posting here, on the forum in public, I now rather have to say that I agree with that assessment.

I continue to commend the Go-op intention, but it just isn't financially viable.

CfN.

Re: Air India flight to London Gatwick crashed in Ahmedabad
In "Introductions and chat" [362219/30350/1]
Posted by stuving at 19:14, 13th June 2025
 
What seems extraordinary to me is that there was one survivor, whose injuries are not in any way life threatening.

Is this pure luck? Was his seating position, next to the emergency exit, likely to be the prime reason for his survival?
The interview he has given was understandably rather incoherent, but did make clear that he had a hole in the fuselage to get out through and was then near ground level and not blocked in. I think that his lack of serious injuries is more of a pure luck thing, to do with the deceleration experienced by that bit of structure, which happened to be unusually benign. I fear that others on the plane may have also been less seriously injured, but were unable to get out before the fire took hold.

Re: TransWilts CRP Annual meeting - 16th July 2025
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [362218/30353/34]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:13, 13th June 2025
 
Thanks, grahame.

Will that on-line meeting be available to non-members of the TWCRP (mine has lapsed)?

CfN.

Re: Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services
In "TransWilts line" [362217/11010/18]
Posted by stuving at 19:03, 13th June 2025
 
From Rail News

A new type of open access operator has signed a Track Access Contract with Network Rail.

Go-op is a co-operative venture which is planning to run services through Somerset and Wiltshire between Taunton and Swindon, serving towns like Frome and Melksham en route.

All previous open access operators have been for-profit, but Go-op is owned by its members. It is now seeking investment partners who will provide the rest of the £2.5 million needed to launch the service.

It now has an opportunity of using tri-mode Class 769 units rather than Class 150s. The 769s are conversions of dual-voltage Class 319 units built for Thameslink in the late 1980s, which now have diesel engines as well to generate traction power.

Go-op is also campaigning for some stations in its area to be reopened. These include Wellington and Somerton – towns which have grown considerably over the past 60 years

As noted here, the contract with NR approved by the ORR was to be conditional on adequate funding - and it appears that that condition has already proved to be unmeetable.

Re: Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services
In "TransWilts line" [362216/11010/18]
Posted by eightonedee at 18:54, 13th June 2025
 
Hmmm...

The link to their website is broken, and it's now shown on Crowdfunder's website as no longer active with the message -"Unfortunately this project was not successful".

TransWilts CRP Annual meeting - 16th July 2025
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [362215/30353/34]
Posted by grahame at 18:22, 13th June 2025
 
From my email

Our annual meeting will be held on line on July 16th.   Details will be circulated in due course.

Re: Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services
In "TransWilts line" [362214/11010/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:18, 13th June 2025
 
From Rail News

A new type of open access operator has signed a Track Access Contract with Network Rail.

Go-op is a co-operative venture which is planning to run services through Somerset and Wiltshire between Taunton and Swindon, serving towns like Frome and Melksham en route.

All previous open access operators have been for-profit, but Go-op is owned by its members. It is now seeking investment partners who will provide the rest of the £2.5 million needed to launch the service.

It now has an opportunity of using tri-mode Class 769 units rather than Class 150s. The 769s are conversions of dual-voltage Class 319 units built for Thameslink in the late 1980s, which now have diesel engines as well to generate traction power.

Go-op is also campaigning for some stations in its area to be reopened. These include Wellington and Somerton – towns which have grown considerably over the past 60 years

Re: HMS Bristol: Last Falklands warship given send-off by veterans - 11 June 2025
In "Introductions and chat" [362213/30348/1]
Posted by Electric train at 17:14, 13th June 2025
 

I was quite surprised it lasted in service as long as it did, I suspect it would have had a much earlier retirement without the Falklands losses.


She was used as the RN Cadet and Schools acquaint and accommodation as well as being used by the RN for training until recently, she sat on permanent mooring off of HMS Excellent (Whale Island)

As a Sea Cadet adult volunteer I have spent many weekends and week living onboard HMS Bristol, sad to see her go
I wouldn’t count any of the use after 1991 as actually ‘in service’ though.  In the 1970s there were a number of harbour training ships in the Portsmouth area, eg Diamond at Priddys Hard, (for Sultan and Collingwood engineering trainees), and IIRC Rame Head was used by the cadets at Excellent (followed by Kent, and I’m sure we didn’t considered any of them in service... 

They were all commissioned warships just as much HMS Victory is to this day

Re: Air India flight to London Gatwick crashed in Ahmedabad
In "Introductions and chat" [362212/30350/1]
Posted by froome at 16:41, 13th June 2025
 
What seems extraordinary to me is that there was one survivor, whose injuries are not in any way life threatening.

Is this pure luck? Was his seating position, next to the emergency exit, likely to be the prime reason for his survival?

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362211/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 15:10, 13th June 2025
 
Strewth - is there anything slower train than a 75mph 165 turbo?!!

Maybe a turbo that doesn't even get started?

17:04 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:13/06/2025 14:32

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:13/06/2025 14:32

Lovely Friday late afternoon/early evening

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362210/29711/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 15:10, 13th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
The afternoon halts train isn't even getting as far as Oxford today:

17:04 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

and yesterday, despite telling passengers the halts service would not go beyond Oxford, JourneyCheck didn't report any issues with the return run from Evesham!

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362209/29711/14]
Posted by grahame at 14:54, 13th June 2025
 
Strewth - is there anything slower train than a 75mph 165 turbo?!!

Class 139?

Re: Tech arms race erupts in bid to beat fare-dodgers
In "Fare's Fair" [362208/30352/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 14:43, 13th June 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 
With acknowledgement to the Telegraph as my source, here is that article:

A technological arms race has broken out to combat the fare-dodging crisis plaguing Britain’s railways.

Faced with the prospect of £500m in lost ticket sales, rail operators are embracing artificial intelligence (AI) and so-called machine learning to crack down on freeloaders.

Evasion tactics that once went little further than hiding in a train lavatory to avoid the guard have changed radically since ticket barriers – first trialled on the Tube in 1964 – were introduced at major stations and across commuter networks.

Miscreants are often seen forcing their way through the barriers to avoid paying, a trend recently highlighted by Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, as he issued a call to arms. However, evasion tactics span well beyond brute force.

The digitisation of ticketing in particular, with the bulk of payments made by bank card, travel card or mobile phone, has opened up whole new avenues for fare abuse and forced operators to respond with tougher safeguards.

Transport for London (TfL), which puts its annual losses from fare-dodging at £130m, says that 4.7pc of Tube passengers – almost one in every 20 – skipped paying or stumped up the incorrect fare in the last financial year alone. Yet, across its wider network of the Tube, Overground, buses, Docklands Light Railway and Elizabeth Line, the rate of offending fell from 3.8pc to 3.4pc after fines were raised to £100. TfL aims to bring it down to 1.5pc by 2030 through an intelligence-led approach combined with new technologies and more proactive enforcement.

While offending in London is well short of New York’s 13pc evasion rate, Siwan Hayward, TfL’s director of security, says that fare-dodging “is not a victimless crime”. She says: “It robs Londoners of vital investment in a safe and reliable transport network. The overwhelming majority of customers pay the correct fare, and it’s unfair to those who do that a minority avoid paying.”

The main weapon in TfL’s armoury is its Irregular Travel Analysis Platform (ITAP), which uses ticketing and journey data, passenger information and CCTV to identify repeat offenders. The tool is integral for a TfL investigations team that seeks to identify “high-impact offenders”, some of whom cost the network up to thousands of pounds a year in lost revenue.

After studying data, the team liaises with 500 uniformed enforcement officers and plain-clothes inspectors, who can demand proof of a ticket or travel card while staging sting operations in stations, sometimes supported by the British Transport Police.

This crackdown led to TfL securing fines of £400,000 last year after prosecuting 360 of the most prolific offenders. Among the offences deployed by fare evaders are techniques known as zonal avoidance and re-tokenisation. The former, colloquially dubbed “doughnutting”, involves travel through zones that have not been paid for.

In re-tokenisation, or “card tumbling,” the fraudster deletes a virtual card from a digital wallet on a mobile device after a journey to prevent authorisation of the transaction overnight. The card is then reloaded, at which point it is allocated a new tokenised number, preventing it from being blacklisted.

A similar con involves the use of a bank card with insufficient funds to pay for a ticket. Tube gates identify the card as genuine and will let the holder in and out, only for the payment to bounce when requested.

One offender last year used a contactless card to avoid paying the correct fare on 202 journeys, resulting in £1,427 in fines. Other scams include the abuse of Freedom Passes, which offer free travel in London for the disabled and those aged 66 and over.

Meanwhile, outside of the biggest cities, at least 2,000 of Britain’s 2,500 or so stations still lack barriers. Therefore, bosses are required to rely on traditional checks to ensure passengers are paying.

Graham Sutherland, chief executive of FirstGroup, which runs express trains on the West Coast and Great Western main lines, said on-train ticket checks remained vital to prevent “revenue leakage”. But there is no doubt that technology has been a game-changer.

LNER, which runs trains between London King’s Cross and Edinburgh, has led the way among long-distance operators in deploying AI to uncover unusual ticket-purchase patterns and identify fraudsters, setting up a “machine learning team” to work alongside its risk experts. A pilot project that began in 2023 immediately identified a customer who had failed to pay for £10,000 worth of travel. Using information uncovered by the new technology, the team then built a case, which resulted in the customer repaying the full loss to LNER.

Paul Larder, at LNER, said the application of machine learning had been revolutionary. He said: “Previously, we’ve relied on our revenue protection team to identify customers who deliberately purchase incorrect tickets for travelling on our services. By using AI, we can accurately analyse large amounts of information quickly and identify patterns that our team can investigate further.”

While companies are ramping up efforts to catch offenders, a report from the Office of Rail and Road this month identified “significant inconsistency” in how operators target fare-dodgers, which has led to unnecessary and unfair prosecutions.

Lord Hendy, the rail minister, who put the cost of fare evasion in England outside London at £400m a year, said a planned new ticketing system as part of the nationalisation programme should reduce instances of people mistakenly buying the wrong tickets. However, for the thugs who push through – known as bumpers, jumpers and tailgaters – sturdier barriers are being created.

Developed by Cubic Transportation Systems, the barriers stretch from the floor to shoulder height and use AI-aided scanning software to detect instances of fare-dodging. Cubic says the gates “can accurately detect, record and flag fare evasion as it’s happening, distinguishing between different types of fare evasion, such as pushing through and climbing under the paddles or tailgating”.

Sir Sadiq Khan’s TfL has not yet said if it will order the equipment. However, if they do, they may finally offer some solace to law-abiding passengers confronted by petty criminals cheating the system while regular staff, who are forbidden from staging physical interventions, look on.


CfN.

Tech arms race erupts in bid to beat fare-dodgers
In "Fare's Fair" [362207/30352/4]
Posted by matth1j at 14:16, 13th June 2025
 
As you might expect, they're going to be using AI.

On the yahoo!tech site (it's a Telegraph article but you need to be a subscriber to read it in full there):
https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/tech-arms-race-erupts-bid-075508560.html

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362206/29711/14]
Posted by ChrisB at 12:45, 13th June 2025
 
Strewth - is there anything slower train than a 75mph 165 turbo?!!

Re: HMS Bristol: Last Falklands warship given send-off by veterans - 11 June 2025
In "Introductions and chat" [362205/30348/1]
Posted by paul7575 at 11:45, 13th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 

I was quite surprised it lasted in service as long as it did, I suspect it would have had a much earlier retirement without the Falklands losses.


She was used as the RN Cadet and Schools acquaint and accommodation as well as being used by the RN for training until recently, she sat on permanent mooring off of HMS Excellent (Whale Island)

As a Sea Cadet adult volunteer I have spent many weekends and week living onboard HMS Bristol, sad to see her go
I wouldn’t count any of the use after 1991 as actually ‘in service’ though.  In the 1970s there were a number of harbour training ships in the Portsmouth area, eg Diamond at Priddys Hard, (for Sultan and Collingwood engineering trainees), and IIRC Rame Head was used by the cadets at Excellent (followed by Kent, and I’m sure we didn’t considered any of them in service... 

Re: Best-loved railway art unveiled after global vote - June 2025
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [362204/30177/49]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:51, 13th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, eightonedee, FarWestJohn, johnneyw
 
From the BBC:

Joy as grandad's painting tops railway art poll



The granddaughter of war artist Eric Ravilious said she was "delighted" one of his works had been named as the world's best-loved railway artwork from the UK.

Painted in 1940, Train Landscape shows the chalk white horse of Westbury, Wiltshire, through the window of a third-class train carriage.

Kate Ravilious, who is a Labour councillor in York, said it was "really lovely" to hear how many people loved the painting.

Art UK and Railway 200 organised the ballot, which drew votes from around the world, as part of events to mark the 200th anniversary of the modern railway.

She said the watercolour may never have seen the light of day however, were it not for her grandmother, Tirzah Garwood, who pieced it together from works her grandfather had discarded.

"I think my granddad and my grandmother would have been delighted because she had a lot to play in this painting too," Ms Ravilious said. "My granddad was a perfectionist in his work and about a third of the pieces he decided weren't worth keeping and in this case my grandmother could see the potential. He had a whole series of paintings that he'd done that he wasn't happy with."

Asked why the painting, which is on display at Aberdeen Art Gallery, had topped the poll, she said she believed that era of artwork was gaining popularity. "Perhaps it's a bit of a nostalgia for a past. His view of the landscape, other people have described it as evoking a kind of Englishness we all love."

Ravilious, who grew up in Sussex, was a painter, designer, book illustrator and wood-engraver who later became a war artist. He was the first war artist to die on active service in 1942, meaning Ms Ravilious would never meet him. "Sadly in 1942 he was sent to Iceland and he went off on an air-sea rescue mission and the plane never returned."

She said he had left a vast amount of work behind. "We still have his lovely paintings to remember him by and that's how I know him, through his paintings."



Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362203/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 10:24, 13th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Yesterday (Thursday June 12), the afternoon halts train from Didcot to Evesham was cancelled after Oxford.

JourneyCheck had this as being due to "to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time".

RTT has it as "This service was cancelled between Oxford and Evesham due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS)".

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362202/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:37, 13th June 2025
 
1W11 0553 London Paddington to Great Malvern 
was cancelled between Oxford and Great Malvern due to an issue with the train crew (TG).
(RTT)

08:56 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 11:27 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:13/06/2025 07:22
(GW Journeycheck)

Striking disparity between the excuses

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [362201/29726/18]
Posted by RA at 08:38, 13th June 2025
Already liked by grahame, matth1j
 
...and the 17:35 Swindon-Westbury left Chippenham on time, but then stopped for about 5 mins somewhere before Thingley, due to a red signal according to the train manager. Wasn't obvious why; I assumed something had got delayed coming from Melksham in the opposite direction on the single track we were waiting to turn into, but nothing came past us. Strange.

Nothing obvious on Real Time Trains ... the other possibility that I looked at was the possibility of something ahead of it that had to clear Bradford Junction before you could proceed, but that was NOT showing on RTT.

Signalling experts may be able to help me - but I think that the train is passed from Didcot to Westbury sit passes along the line and signallers at both ends have to co-operate to pass trains.  I get the impression that the paths / this is occasionally done very late.

The signaller at Westbury controls the single line through Melksham. In order to route a down train from Thingley Junction towards Bradford Junction, the signaller on the TVSC Swindon workstation has to request the slot from their counterpart at Westbury. If the slot is not requested or given in good time, the Automatic Route Setting will set the route up only as far as the signal before the Thingley crossovers. This is to ensure that the junction is not blocked if there was to be a train coming up from Bradford Junction first.

Re: Air India flight to London Gatwick crashed in Ahmedabad
In "Introductions and chat" [362200/30350/1]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:47, 13th June 2025
 
From The BBC


Over coming time, we will learn what caused the plane to fall out of the sky; out of respect for those who have perished or been bereaved, I am not speculating here.

Agreed. Speculation best avoided.

A colleague lost an Aunt and Uncle in yesterday's crash, who (heart breakingly) were en route to attend a funeral in London.

Edited to clarify quoting

Re: RMT to ballot GWR Gateline staff over lone staffing plans - June 2025
In "Across the West" [362199/30351/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:42, 13th June 2025
Already liked by eightonedee, Bob_Blakey, Clan Line
 
From the Morning Star:



Rail union RMT announced today that it will be balloting over 300 gateline staff across Great Western Railway (GWR) for strike action. The ballot, opening on June 17, comes in response to company plans to impose single staffing and extend working hours.

The rail union argues that this will leave staff on ticket barriers isolated, more exposed to abuse and violence, and unable to provide proper ticket enforcement and adequate assistance to passengers. RMT reports that management has attempted to intimidate workers by insisting they will not win the ballot, and that the new working arrangements will go ahead regardless.
 
General secretary Eddie Dempsey said: “Our members are being threatened with unsafe working conditions and told there is nothing they can do about it. GWR is trying to impose single staffing, which will put our members at greater chance of being harmed at work and we cannot allow that. RMT will not accept lone working on stations and Gatelines, and we are prepared to take strike action to stop it.”

A Great Western Railway spokesman said: “These proposals mean more colleagues at seven GWR stations on our network to offer help and support to customers. We’ve got no plans to extend the working hours for gateline colleagues and there is no suggestion of single staffing being imposed. We’ve been speaking to trades unions colleagues about recruiting an additional 30 members of staff at seven locations on our network to help us provide more staff at gatelines for longer. Rather than being imposed, we’ve been clear that minimum staffing levels would be agreed by local station teams, based on risk assessments agreed with trades unions. We’re keen to talk to colleagues and their trades union representatives to find a mutually beneficial solution here that doesn’t involve colleagues losing money through unnecessary industrial action.”


Of note is the apparently obligatory illustrative image, again from Bristol Temple Meads - which would surely be the last railway station to be subject to any proposed 'single staffing' on the ticket barriers?

CfN.

I wonder if either of the Morning Star's readers noticed?

Re: Air India flight to London Gatwick crashed in Ahmedabad
In "Introductions and chat" [362198/30350/1]
Posted by JayMac at 21:54, 12th June 2025
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Some reports are suggesting dual engine failure after take-off (DEFATO) That would help explain why there was a mayday call. It's something that is very noticeable to the flight crew, very quickly. If the plane had been incorrectly configured for take-off (as some have speculated - noting that flaps may have been incorrectly positioned and gear was still down) it's less likely the pilots would've figured out what was wrong in time to diagnose the problem and then communicate. The rule of thumb is: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate. There's also some suggestion that the RAT (Ram Air Turbine) was deployed, which would add weight to the DEFATO hypothesis.

A dual engine failure immediately after V2 would most likely occur due to birdstrikes. Other foreign object damage is possible, though less likely to affect both engines. It could also potentially be contaminated fuel, but there have been subsequent take-offs from that airport, so it's unlikely the source of fuel was the problem.

Dual engine failure at, or immediately after, V2. Startled pilots. No positive rate achieved so no "positive rate, gear up" call out and action. Begin the DEFATO checklist, which I suspect is mainly memory items due to the time critical nature of the fault. Continuing aviating. Issue mayday.

If it turns out to be this scenario then the sad reality is that the pilots simply did not have enough of three critical things. Time, altitude, speed. The nearest comparison would be US Airways Flight 1549. But Chesley Sullenberger and Jeffrey Skiles had nearly 4 minutes, 190kts and 3,000ft to play with.

My thoughts and sympathies go to all those affected. 

Re: HMS Bristol: Last Falklands warship given send-off by veterans - 11 June 2025
In "Introductions and chat" [362197/30348/1]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 21:49, 12th June 2025
 
Got flown out to Hong Kong to join her. Amazing three month trip back to Portsmouth. 1990.

RMT to ballot GWR Gateline staff over lone staffing plans - June 2025
In "Across the West" [362196/30351/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:04, 12th June 2025
 
From the Morning Star:



Rail union RMT announced today that it will be balloting over 300 gateline staff across Great Western Railway (GWR) for strike action. The ballot, opening on June 17, comes in response to company plans to impose single staffing and extend working hours.

The rail union argues that this will leave staff on ticket barriers isolated, more exposed to abuse and violence, and unable to provide proper ticket enforcement and adequate assistance to passengers. RMT reports that management has attempted to intimidate workers by insisting they will not win the ballot, and that the new working arrangements will go ahead regardless.
 
General secretary Eddie Dempsey said: “Our members are being threatened with unsafe working conditions and told there is nothing they can do about it. GWR is trying to impose single staffing, which will put our members at greater chance of being harmed at work and we cannot allow that. RMT will not accept lone working on stations and Gatelines, and we are prepared to take strike action to stop it.”

A Great Western Railway spokesman said: “These proposals mean more colleagues at seven GWR stations on our network to offer help and support to customers. We’ve got no plans to extend the working hours for gateline colleagues and there is no suggestion of single staffing being imposed. We’ve been speaking to trades unions colleagues about recruiting an additional 30 members of staff at seven locations on our network to help us provide more staff at gatelines for longer. Rather than being imposed, we’ve been clear that minimum staffing levels would be agreed by local station teams, based on risk assessments agreed with trades unions. We’re keen to talk to colleagues and their trades union representatives to find a mutually beneficial solution here that doesn’t involve colleagues losing money through unnecessary industrial action.”


Of note is the apparently obligatory illustrative image, again from Bristol Temple Meads - which would surely be the last railway station to be subject to any proposed 'single staffing' on the ticket barriers?

CfN.

Re: London to Frankfurt and Geneva - direct trains from Eurostar?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362195/29934/51]
Posted by Electric train at 20:55, 12th June 2025
 
Press release from Railfuture:

Railfuture comments on Eurostar announcement. Planning new trains to Germany and Switzerland:

It looks as if Eurostar has finally decided to expand. The Eurostar 50 new trains order has been around for a while but without stated commitment to run from Britain.

The "concentrate in the core, high fares" strategy is fine in the short run if you have no wider economic objectives but it has opened up a plethora of open access proposals.

Perhaps the most significant result is for Eurostar to realise that they are best placed to expand with less barriers to entry than new entrants. The key is to do this fast enough to keep new entrants at bay. The announcement to add new routes from London to Germany and Switzerland is strategically significant in this respect.

Open access has, in this way, already served a purpose without even running a train. In strategic terms this is good. Railfuture welcomes this development but makes it clear that this still leaves scope for more services and more competition, particularly on the existing Paris route and to the largest air market from Britain, after Paris and Amsterdam, i.e. Spain.

Also, sooner or later, someone will realise that there are other cities in Britain that have a huge air market, More people travel from Manchester to Paris than from London to any city in Switzerland.

Railfuture contends that the timing and the economics are right for sustainable rail travel from Britain as is the market appetite.

Railfuture's suggested choice of preferred open access routes.

This is ambitious for obvious reasons against the present situation but far less so in market terms. It also makes the presumption that the current preoccupation with immigration and security will be eased, with new technology and EU technology.

This proposes two strategic stops en route here, Stratford in long haul fast services to take about 30% volume to ease St Pancras, and Ashford for the Kent catchment area with its propensity to travel to Continental Europe.

Stratford or in some case, Lille would largely replace St Pancras as the interchange point from NW England.

Draft list of contenders.

Eurostar's proposals plus;
Paris route competition

    London, Stratford - Paris (fast)
    London, Ashford - Calais, Lille, Paris
    London, Ashford - Charles de Gaulle Airport, Disneyland Paris, Lyon. Delete Lyon, add Tours, Bordeaux
    Manchester, Crewe (Merseyside and North West hub), Rugby(West Midlands hub), Stratford - Lille, Paris (all with long platforms)


South of France and Spain route competition

    London, Stratford- Barcelona, Madrid (fast)
    London, Ashford - Lyon, Avignon, Marseille
    London, Ashford - Lyon, Montpellier, Perpignan, Barcelona. Delete Barcelona, possibly combined to Avignon


Add

    London, Ashford, Charles de Gaulle Airport, Disneyland, LeMans, Nantes, with multiple service stops to provide frequency to CdG and Disneyland.


London, Ashford- Germany route competition

    London, Stratford - Hannover, Berlin (fast)
    London, Stratford - Brussels, Koln, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Zurich, Milan


Belgium, Netherlands route competition

    Manchester, Crewe, Rugby, Stratford - Lille, Antwerp, Rotterdam, Amsterdam


Nord Pas de Calais shuttle in cooperation on fares with SE High Speed and domestic Ashford - Calais, Lille

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Notes to editors:

Railfuture is the UK's leading independent organisation campaigning for better rail services for both passengers and freight.

Railfuture's website can be found at: www.railfuture.org.uk

I believe it was always Eurostar ambition to expand its services further into Europe.   A few things that dented that ambition, Covid really hit Eurostar hard financially onto top of the cost of procuring the class 375's and to a lesser extent was initially the uncertainty of the impact of Brexit border controls.  The other part of the picture has been more and more high speed lines being linked up in Europe, they get on and build theirs while we procrastinate 

The full merger and rebranding of Thalys into Eurostar certainly underlines their ambition. 

 
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