Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 08:15 29 Mar 2024
- Bus plunges off South Africa bridge, killing 45
- Easter getaway begins with flood alerts in place
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 02/06/24 - Summer Timetable starts
17/08/24 - Bus to Imber
27/09/25 - 200 years of passenger trains

On this day
29th Mar (1913)
Foundation of National Union or Railwaymen (*)

Train RunningCancelled
06:30 Bristol Temple Meads to London Paddington
07:20 Reading to Gatwick Airport
08:13 Newbury to Bedwyn
08:46 Bedwyn to Newbury
09:00 Gatwick Airport to Reading
09:54 Bedwyn to Newbury
10:22 Newbury to Bedwyn
11:29 Newbury to Bedwyn
11:57 Bedwyn to Newbury
12:52 Bedwyn to Newbury
Short Run
04:54 Plymouth to London Paddington
05:23 Hereford to London Paddington
05:33 Plymouth to London Paddington
05:55 Plymouth to London Paddington
06:37 Plymouth to London Paddington
07:03 London Paddington to Paignton
07:24 Exmouth to Paignton
07:38 Bristol Temple Meads to Penzance
07:40 Bristol Temple Meads to Westbury
08:35 Plymouth to London Paddington
08:41 Westbury to Bristol Temple Meads
10:35 London Paddington to Exeter St Davids
12:15 Penzance to London Paddington
Delayed
05:03 Penzance to London Paddington
06:05 Penzance to London Paddington
07:10 Penzance to London Paddington
08:03 London Paddington to Penzance
08:15 Penzance to London Paddington
09:04 London Paddington to Plymouth
09:37 London Paddington to Paignton
10:04 London Paddington to Penzance
11:03 London Paddington to Plymouth
PollsOpen and recent polls
Closed 2024-03-25 Easter Escape - to where?
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
March 29, 2024, 08:18:56 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[82] would you like your own LIVE train station departure board?
[76] West Wiltshire Bus Changes April 2024
[74] Reversing Beeching - bring heritage and freight lines into the...
[67] Return of the BRUTE?
[57] Infrastructure problems in Thames Valley causing disruption el...
[46] 2024 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 5
  Print  
Author Topic: Night Riviera Sleeper refurb  (Read 38424 times)
a-driver
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 965


View Profile
« on: September 30, 2015, 20:17:25 »

A few pictures featuring mock-ups of the refurbished Night Riviera Sleeper set from the Cornwall Expo 2015 event held on the 29th & 30th September at Newquay Airport.  Hopefully the mock-up shown isn't going to be the exact seating layout, seems an odd place to position a sofa.... you'll see what I mean!

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/headlines---latest-reports-and-photographs/cornwall-expo-2015-a-special-report-by-mick-house
Logged
Thatcham Crossing
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 793


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2015, 23:39:17 »

Quite a logistical effort I'd say to get that coach into a hangar at NQY (Newquay (Station)).
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3457

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2016, 20:49:12 »

One of the long rock engineers have shared interior photos on Flickr today of the first day coach. Looks rather smart

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/co-tr-p/
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2016, 21:05:01 »

But given the almost total airline seating, they look rather claustrophobic for an overnight journey.  I wonder what the degree of recline is too.

I do hope they haven't compromised the optimum configuration just on the basis that the coaches may get the odd outing in the day time.
Logged
Timmer
Global Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 6293


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2016, 21:07:03 »

I do hope they haven't compromised the optimum configuration just on the basis that the coaches may get the odd outing in the day time.
Could be.

Hope they turn the lighting down at night too. Looks a bit harsh in the pictures
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3457

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2016, 21:08:41 »

Airline seats i prefer, when I've travelled I've not been entirely comfortable sharing a table seat with a total stranger and sleeping with stranger opposite.

And Paul has posted on rail forums that many will miss the reclining seats so I assume that they aren't recliners
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
TaplowGreen
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 7747



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 07:09:19 »

Certainly looks......er......cosy?
Logged
Tim
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2738


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 09:15:44 »

Thanks.

Does anyone know why the sleeper compartments have been given a day time configuration.  Surely that only makes sense on long continental journeys where the occupants will be awake some of the time.  For journeys lasting from 11:30pm to 7am (or thereabouts) why would you need anything other than a bed?
Logged
LiskeardRich
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 3457

richardwarwicker@hotmail.co.uk
View Profile
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 09:27:27 »

Tim the seated coaches are typically around 75% full when I've used it so I guess there is demand.
Logged

All posts are my own personal believes, opinions and understandings!
John R
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 4416


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 10:29:37 »

But if they are 75% full in a low density configuration, then why change it to a high density config?  As well as seat pitch, they are narrower due to being 4 abreast, so much less comfortable for an overnight journey.
Logged
Tim
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 2738


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2016, 17:13:16 »

Sorry I wasn't clear.  My previous post referred to the "daytime configuration" of the sleeper compartments.  What is that needed for?   
Logged
broadgage
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 5398



View Profile
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2016, 22:42:40 »

But given the almost total airline seating, they look rather claustrophobic for an overnight journey.  I wonder what the degree of recline is too.

I do hope they haven't compromised the optimum configuration just on the basis that the coaches may get the odd outing in the day time.

Very few tables, reduced seating pitch, high backed seats. Looks like a new train.
Logged

A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
chrisr_75
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1019


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 00:30:24 »

But given the almost total airline seating, they look rather claustrophobic for an overnight journey.  I wonder what the degree of recline is too.

I do hope they haven't compromised the optimum configuration just on the basis that the coaches may get the odd outing in the day time.

Very few tables, reduced seating pitch, high backed seats. Looks like a new train.

Are the 'sleeper' coaches not used for day time (relief?) services? I guess perhaps a balance is being made between night time comfort and day time capacity?
Logged
chrisr_75
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1019


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 00:33:10 »

Thanks.

Does anyone know why the sleeper compartments have been given a day time configuration.  Surely that only makes sense on long continental journeys where the occupants will be awake some of the time.  For journeys lasting from 11:30pm to 7am (or thereabouts) why would you need anything other than a bed?

Are the beds made up by an attendant en route or are they already beds when you board at Paddington or Penzance? As the boarding time is relatively early at the starting points, many people may not want to get straight into bed, so presumably the 'daytime' configuration is to allow those folk somewhere comfy to sit before they're ready to sleep?
Logged
ChrisB
Transport Scholar
Hero Member
******
Posts: 12334


View Profile Email
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2016, 09:25:16 »

However you made up the sleeping cabins, I wouldn't want to spend much time in there *not* sleeping....why would you, they're small boxes with almost zero daylight
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 5
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules (email link to report). Forum hosted by Well House Consultants

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page