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Author Topic: Incident at Loughborough Junction, South London. Three dead. 18/6/2018  (Read 3618 times)
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« on: June 18, 2018, 11:02:17 am »

Breaking news from the BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44520759

 
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2018, 11:20:54 am »

BTP statement:

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Shortly after 7.30am this morning, officers from British Transport Police were called to Loughborough Junction in South London following a report of multiple bodies being found.

Police and paramedics from the London Ambulance Service attended the scene, however three people were sadly pronounced dead at the scene.

Officers remain at the scene where they are working to identify the deceased and inform their families. A number of enquiries are also underway to establish the circumstances of how the people came to be on the tracks. 

Detective Superintendent Gary Richardson from British Transport Police, said: “My team are now working hard to understand what happened and how these three people came to lose their life on the railway.

“My thoughts are with the family and friends of these three people. 

“At this time, we are treating their death as unexplained as we make a number of immediate enquiries. I would ask anyone who was near to Loughborough Junction this morning, and saw something which they think might be relevant, please contact us as soon as possible.”

Train services will be delayed whilst these enquiries are made – therefore, please check with National Rail Enquiries before travelling.

Information can be passed to BTP by sending a text to 61016 or by calling 0800 40 50 40 quoting reference 93 of 18/06/2018.
http://media.btp.police.uk/r/15574/three_people_struck_by_train___south_london_

Initial reports have said that the three were hit by a train. That's not confirmed by BTP in their statement.
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 11:24:47 am »

Media reports state 3 dead after being struck by a train at/near Loughborough Junction, South East London.
I used live fairly near, and would observe that this is a very complex and congested area of railway, and is largely elevated well above street level on arches and viaduct.

No level crossings nearby which rules out one common cause of fatalities. Suicide very seldom involves 3 victims at once.

Anyone know more ?
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 11:32:49 am »

Some extremely insensitive and ghoulish helicopter footage on Sky News feeds. Zooming in on the body recovery. I'm not going to link to it as I hope Sky News realise just how unnecessary the footage is and remove it.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2018, 11:34:06 am »

I've started a topic on this incident too.

See: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19956.new#new

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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2018, 11:40:50 am »

To add to the above, as well as that part of the station in use, there are disused platforms through which trains frequently pass, but that have no safe facility for boarding or alighting.

Back in the days of slam door trains, it was not unknown for passengers to alight at the disused platforms if the train was held at a signal.
Trains from London towards Nunhead pass through one of the disused platforms. I once alighted there by mistake during a power cut.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2018, 11:56:18 am »

I've started a topic on this incident too.

See: http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=19956.new#new

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Topics merged (so there will look to be some duplication early in the thread).   Thank you both for letting me know of the double starter; happy to join them.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2018, 12:22:55 pm »

To add to the above, as well as that part of the station in use, there are disused platforms through which trains frequently pass, but that have no safe facility for boarding or alighting.

The incident occurred away from Loughborough Road station on the South London Line between Denmark Hill station and Canterbury Road Junction. Approximately where I've pinned in this screengrab:

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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2018, 01:17:50 pm »

Latest reports state "spray cans found near the bodies" which might just possibly be a coincidence, but does strongly suggest graffiti vandals.
It is also suggested that they might have been struck by a train overnight, and this not noticed straight away.
(source is BBC new website, and presumably reported elsewhere)
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2018, 02:05:37 pm »

Three Under so very sad
Further reports suggest three males believed to be in their twenties are those poor souls,my condolences to all involved.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2018, 06:25:28 pm »

Latest reports state "spray cans found near the bodies" which might just possibly be a coincidence, but does strongly suggest graffiti vandals.
It is also suggested that they might have been struck by a train overnight, and this not noticed straight away.
(source is BBC new website, and presumably reported elsewhere)
It might suggest graffiti, it might suggest solvent sniffing. Or it might be something else entirely.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2018, 07:50:01 pm »

Spray cans and a HUGE wall covered in tags etc.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/loughborough-junction-three-people-dead-after-being-hit-by-train-at-south-london-railway-station-a3865371.html
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2018, 02:36:55 pm »

This from The BTP just in http://media.btp.police.uk/r/15583/tribute_from_family_of_harrison_scott-hood_-_loug.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2018, 05:48:28 pm »

Latest reports state that the deceased were struck by an "out of service passenger train" at about 01-00 and not by a freight train as earlier suggested.
As reported on BBC news website and presumably elsewhere.

Graffiti "tributes" are starting to appear.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2018, 06:27:20 pm »

Evening Standard confirms that all three were graffiti artists:

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First pictures of young graffiti artists killed on tracks near Loughborough Junction station as 'heartbroken' families pay tribute

[Names of all three victims] were found dead on a south London railway line on Monday morning.

The pictures and identities of the three men were released as new information from British Transport Police revealed the men were struck by an out of service passenger train.

Tributes have been paid to the trio on social media under their “tags” of Kbag, Lover and Trip after their deaths at the popular graffiti spot.
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