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« on: June 02, 2023, 18:36:58 »

Early reports state as many as 50 lives lost, and several hundred injured.
It appears that several vehicles of a passenger train derailed, and that the derailed coaches were foul of the opposite line, and that a freight train then ran into them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2023, 22:09:22 »

Death toll now risen to 'more than' 120.

Updated news item from BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2023, 01:25:09 »

Later reports put the death toll at "over 200" Awful. Nearly 1,000 hurt.
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It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2023, 07:27:42 »

Later reports put the death toll at "over 200" Awful. Nearly 1,000 hurt.

And now - worse than any rail accident, ever, in the UK (United Kingdom).  Sadly, not a record for India.

Updating at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-65793257

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at least 288 people are now known to have been killed and 850 injured in a multiple train collision in India's eastern Odisha state, officials say.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2023, 14:46:51 »

Amended to "at least 260" & another page refers to 261. Tragic
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2023, 19:14:11 »


KS Anand CPRO of SE Railway (India) has said that the train was signalled off the main line in to the goods/platform (yes they still call it goods) loop, already occupied. The second (up) express struck by the wreckage.

Shades of Harrow.

There's also talk of recent signalling work (Clapham?).

The coaches not totally destroyed look to have performed well.

Sad to see such kind, gentle people hurt.

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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2023, 19:41:13 »


KS Anand CPRO of SE Railway (India) has said that the train was signalled off the main line in to the goods/platform (yes they still call it goods) loop, already occupied. The second (up) express struck by the wreckage.

Shades of Harrow.

All sort of shades.  I was looking at Quintinshill too ... but these are multiple train collisions where the sheer numbers of people are as high. If the report is correct, it's comparison is perhaps with Wetheral See Wikipedia Report

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At about 4pm on Saturday 3 December 1836, a train was travelling westwards towards Carlisle, drawn by the locomotive SAMSON, with 26 passengers aboard plus a heavy load of goods. About half a mile before the siding the driver shut the locomotive regulator and the train descended the gradient. On reaching a bridge just before the siding, the train driver saw a man upon the line and signalled to him to get out of the way. The driver then saw that the points were set for the siding rather than the main line. He set the locomotive into reverse and he and the fireman leaped off. Because of the downward gradient the train carried on its way unchecked.
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