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Preparing for the 60th anniversary of the Great Train Robbery on 8th August 1963 ... came across this modern day equivalent from today's Daily RecordTwo teens accused of trying to steal mail from a Royal Mail train near Lockerbie Officers for the British Transport Police said a signal box had also been damaged which forced the closure of the West Coast Main Line between Lockerbie and Carlisle for several hours. Two isolated incidents, or are mail train robberies a daily thing?
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2023, 07:08:10 » |
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Preparing for the 60th anniversary of the Great Train Robbery on 8th August 1963 ... Should I warn Thames Valley Police to be on the lookout for a suspicious character from Wiltshire hanging around Train Robber Bridge in Buckinghamshire ? came across this modern day equivalent from today's Daily RecordTwo teens accused of trying to steal mail from a Royal Mail train near Lockerbie Officers for the British Transport Police said a signal box had also been damaged which forced the closure of the West Coast Main Line between Lockerbie and Carlisle for several hours. Two isolated incidents, or are mail train robberies a daily thing? I do not think so, there are not that many Royal Mail trains running today and certainly Royal Mail is not carried on regular passenger trains like it used to be. If this type of crime was common place it would be all over the media and would be headlines in the Dail fail and Daily excuse as a public outrage
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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grahame
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2023, 07:24:47 » |
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Preparing for the 60th anniversary of the Great Train Robbery on 8th August 1963 ... Should I warn Thames Valley Police to be on the lookout for a suspicious character from Wiltshire hanging around Train Robber Bridge in Buckinghamshire ? Nah - but your could bring this to their attention: http://www.passenger.chat/foss8.html
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2023, 13:19:05 » |
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Preparing for the 60th anniversary of the Great Train Robbery on 8th August 1963 ... Should I warn Thames Valley Police to be on the lookout for a suspicious character from Wiltshire hanging around Train Robber Bridge in Buckinghamshire ? Nah - but your could bring this to their attention: http://www.passenger.chat/foss8.htmlThen you could visit Tom Long's Post. The 18th century equivalent of a train robber!
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2023, 14:29:48 » |
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Probably worth the annual reminder that very few in the railway refer to the 1963 event as “great”.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2023, 16:02:06 » |
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Probably worth the annual reminder that very few in the railway refer to the 1963 event as “great”.
I agree nothing great or heroic about it, Jack Mills never fully recovered from his injuries
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Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly, or a RUD, during ascent,”
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2023, 17:01:51 » |
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Two isolated incidents, or are mail train robberies a daily thing?
No, it's the same one incident as was reported two days before this mention in the Record.
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2023, 20:34:32 » |
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I think Graham might have had a few when he started this thread....
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2023, 23:54:24 » |
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Probably worth the annual reminder that very few in the railway refer to the 1963 event as “great”.
I agree nothing great or heroic about it, Jack Mills never fully recovered from his injuries To be charitable, "great" could be taken as an indication of the scale of the robbery, which was undoubtedly greater than almost all other robberies. And NOT meaning "great" as in any way admirable, heroic, or to be commended. To avoid confusion, it would in my view be better not to use the word "great" when referring to this crime. "The train robbery" or if an indication of the scale of the theft is required "The huge train robbery"
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard. It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc. A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2023, 09:02:31 » |
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We still talk of the "the Great War", a name given over a hundred years ago when usage was slightly different to today. Which reminds us that this train robbery was closer in time, and quite possibly in terms of use of the word "great", to the end of WW1 than to today.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2023, 09:43:36 » |
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We still talk of the "the Great War", a name given over a hundred years ago when usage was slightly different to today. Which reminds us that this train robbery was closer in time, and quite possibly in terms of use of the word "great", to the end of WW1 than to today.
Indeed - the (online) dictionary gives two definitions 1. of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average. "the article was of great interest" 2. of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above average. "the great Italian conductor" The First World War and the 1963 train robbery both fall into the first definition.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2023, 04:55:24 » |
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We still talk of the "the Great War", a name given over a hundred years ago when usage was slightly different to today. Which reminds us that this train robbery was closer in time, and quite possibly in terms of use of the word "great", to the end of WW1 than to today.
And the "great storm" of 1987. And the "great depression" of the 1930s. Neither event was considered to be admirable.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard. It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc. A 5 car DMU▸ is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2023, 18:24:56 » |
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I always thought that 'great' referred to magnitude and not magnificence in this context.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2023, 15:54:10 » |
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And the "great storm" of 1987.
These days, you are as likely to hear "They say it will be as bad as the Great Storm of a couple of weeks ago". I'll have a half of what grahame's drinking.
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