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Philip Haigh @ Rail tweeted this, this morning..... 03/11/2011 08:31
Red paint to arrive at Heaton soon...? Just enough for some 180s and HSTs▸ ? Ja? Anyone care to decipher this..... Edited heading in light of splitting this off from the 180s allocation discussion and merging into GC» /DB» thread |
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 09:55:58 » |
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Philip Haigh @ Rail tweeted this, this morning..... 03/11/2011 08:31
Red paint to arrive at Heaton soon...? Just enough for some 180s and HSTs▸ ? Ja? Anyone care to decipher this..... Referring to the 'Red Paint' it's rumoured DB» are about to take over Grand Central but I doubt we'll see 180s and HSTs been taken out-of-service to be repainted in DB livery anytime soon considering the reliability problems which have got worse in the past few weeks. One of the two out-of-use (East Coast) 180s has gone on a short term loan to Grand Central. Hull Trains have subleased a 180 off GC» , so I don't know why Hull Trains haven't just loaned the out-of-use 180 themselves. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 10:01:15 » |
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Yes, that's probably the point - DB» buying GC» who have 180s/HSTs▸ of course....
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 10:25:51 » |
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Have just read that grand central have been taken over by arriva/DB» , i think it's a terrible shame and something unique has been lost and going off cross country it's customers should be worried
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 10:42:22 » |
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I heard yesterday....;et's hope they survive longer than the first open-access operator that DB» got their dirty paws on....
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 11:07:17 » |
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Interesting rumours.
What this thread once again emphasises is what a mess DaFT» have got into over the allocation of exisiting and purchase of new rolling stock, for both capacity enhancements and replacement of worn out units such as the Pacers.
There was a piece on I think you and yours where they discussed how Pacers could be made disability compliant in 2018! Whcich would mean they would be around until at least 2025!
I think even Roger Ford has ceased trying to make sense of DaFT figures.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 11:10:49 » |
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 12:11:58 » |
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There's a specific thread somethere...
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 13:25:26 » |
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How long before DB» /Arriva announce they can no longer sustain the losses at Grand Central? This years accounts showed a loss of ^8.5 million, with Net liabilities (money owed to creditors minus assets) of ^37 million.
Closing Grand Central would give DB/Arriva a nice little pool of rolling stock to use elsewhere. They've done it once before......
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 13:35:44 » |
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It sure is a possibility, though less likely I'd have thought as it really would be awful publicity for Arriva/DB» if they were to do the same thing twice, and the two Grand Central routes have much more potential.
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 13:40:48 » |
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The Sunderland route is supposed to be making a profit and yes the Bradford service is making a loss at the moment but paassengers numbers are supposed to be rising.
I wonder what the effect will be with the DB» /Arriva Alliance rail open acess proposals.
Could we see Grand Central getting brand new trains if an order is placed for those polaris trains, if some of the Alliance rail proposals get the go ahead.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 16:28:07 » |
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They've applied to ORR» to re-route the Bradford service via Mirfield instead of Pontefract to speed it up.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 18:21:27 » |
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How long before DB» /Arriva announce they can no longer sustain the losses at Grand Central? This years accounts showed a loss of ^8.5 million, with Net liabilities (money owed to creditors minus assets) of ^37 million.
Closing Grand Central would give DB/Arriva a nice little pool of rolling stock to use elsewhere. They've done it once before......
Or seen as a foot in the door for the East Coast franchise |
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