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1  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: HMS Bristol: Last Falklands warship given send-off by veterans - 11 June 2025 on: June 13, 2025, 11:45:25

I was quite surprised it lasted in service as long as it did, I suspect it would have had a much earlier retirement without the Falklands losses.


She was used as the RN Cadet and Schools acquaint and accommodation as well as being used by the RN for training until recently, she sat on permanent mooring off of HMS Excellent (Whale Island)

As a Sea Cadet adult volunteer I have spent many weekends and week living onboard HMS Bristol, sad to see her go
I wouldn’t count any of the use after 1991 as actually ‘in service’ though.  In the 1970s there were a number of harbour training ships in the Portsmouth area, eg Diamond at Priddys Hard, (for Sultan and Collingwood engineering trainees), and IIRC ('if I recall/remember/read correctly') Rame Head was used by the cadets at Excellent (followed by Kent, and I’m sure we didn’t considered any of them in service... 
2  All across the Great Western territory / Introductions and chat / Re: HMS Bristol: Last Falklands warship given send-off by veterans - 11 June 2025 on: June 12, 2025, 16:48:07
Basically she was overtaken by events while in build, steam turbine main propulsion was about to be ruled out in surface ships in favour of all gas turbine.

The weapon and radar systems were effectively that of a Type 42 in a different hull, but in the details she had a unique Seadart missile handling system, she had no helicopter hangar, and retained the obsolescent Mortar Mk 10 for a long while until it was removed.  There was also an Ikara anti submarine system that was mothballed quite early in the ship’s life.

I was quite surprised it lasted in service as long as it did, I suspect it would have had a much earlier retirement without the Falklands losses.

Paul
3  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Driving licences and tests - ongoing discussion on: June 01, 2025, 19:16:51
From the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page):

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Jodie Johnston, a driving instructor in Exeter, likens booking a test to the infamous annual scramble to buy tickets for Glastonbury Festival - and says some learners in London, where demand can be even higher, are travelling 200 miles to take their tests in Devon. "It's easier to pass a test than book a test at the moment," adds Ali Slade, a driving instructor in Farnham.
My niece in Surrey found it quicker to get a test in Portsmouth. Apparently a few of her school friends have done the same.
In my teens when learning, people from Newcastle would head 35 miles up the road to Alnwick for their test.  They got the same licence, but there were no traffic lights or roundabouts to navigate. Smiley

My cousin emigrated to the USA in the 80s before taking her first test somewhere in the deep south. It consisted of something like driving a loop around a residential block and then reversing successfully into a side road. She reckoned it was far easier than a British cycling proficiency test…
4  Journey by Journey / London to the Cotswolds / Re: Through Fares from Cotswold line stations to Chiltern Stations on: May 26, 2025, 19:18:26
It’s about time fares managers were tasked well in advance to determine the impact of new routes, and setup necessary fares prior to opening. 

What are the odds they’ll be taken completely by surprise by EWR (East West Railway (Oxford to Bedford), or possibly East Worthing station, depending on context)’s opening, there’ll be a significant number of obvious new routes become available.

Didn’t some journeys around the same area, eg from South of Oxford, generate a route via Banbury rather than Oxford Parkway?

Paul
5  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025? on: May 20, 2025, 20:45:40
Taunton 5and13 Cheddon Fitzpaine ?...

Ding ding ding. We have a winner!

Quite why it's called 'Taunton 5 and 13' I've no idea. Also listed as 'Taunton 5/13'. I thought perhaps it was a distance from a certain point, perhaps the station. But 5 chains and 13 yards is only 369ft. The station is about 3000ft away.

5 Furlongs and 13 yards would be 3339 ft.  5 furlongs and 13 chains would be 4158 ft. 
Just seems to be the local authority code for the footpath, their definitive map shows loads of footpath lengths with a similar format, the other side of the river is T5/13B.  Here’s a link to the map, although such links often fail for a subsequent attempt:
https://roam.somerset.gov.uk/roam/map
6  Journey by Journey / TransWilts line / Re: Go-Op Cooperative - proposals for additional rail services on: May 12, 2025, 11:20:45
The crowdfunding attempt has been abandoned today apparently. 

So presumably this long term ‘railway’ project will now become a footnote in the history books. Was this ORR» (Office of Rail and Road, formerly Office of Rail Regulation - about)’s intention all along - to force Go-Op to find the funds or withdraw?

Paul
7  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: April across the South West - May bank holiday quiz on: May 04, 2025, 19:38:10
2. Weymouth
8  Journey by Journey / Heart of Wessex / Re: Stop orders as cover for cancelled services on: April 28, 2025, 20:52:29
It makes sense to add "stop" orders and indeed to call diverted trains during engineering works at various stations. 

It does happen - as an example,  during the recent closure of the St Denys to Fareham line, the SWR» (South Western Railway - about) Romsey 6 was pulled between Southampton and Romsey via Eastleigh, with the diverted long distance Cardiff to Portsmouth train making the calls at Chandlers Ford which would otherwise have been unserved.

From what I’ve seen over the years that’s been the routine used since Chandlers Ford first reopened.  It was a standard diversion for the Portsmouth - Cardiff trains already, I don’t think the line itself had ever closed to passenger traffic.

Paul
9  Journey by Journey / Cross Country services / Re: Crosscountry axe UK's longest direct rail route on: April 10, 2025, 16:04:24
The new timings have the slight advantage (for XC (Cross Country Trains (franchise))) that they will no longer have a single unit outberthed at Penzance overnight, they’ll all be at Laira or Bristol. A small side effect being no need to get drivers and crews between Plymouth and Penzance and vice versa.

10  All across the Great Western territory / Across the West / Re: Nottingham to Bristol TM open access service proposed on: April 03, 2025, 11:55:31
The DfT» (Department for Transport - about) explicitly ruled out ‘cross-country type’ services via EWR (East West Railway (Oxford to Bedford), or possibly East Worthing station, depending on context), this was done before the TWA (Transport and Works Act 1992) process got going, and is mentioned in the TWA inspector’s report.  The same section of the report included removing through services from EWR into Marylebone via Princes Risbrough and High Wycombe.   

I’m surprised this proposal has come up, I’d assumed EWR’s own proposals including future Cambridge extensions use up all the designed paths.
11  All across the Great Western territory / Active travel: Cyclists and walkers, including how the railways deal with them / Re: Changes to the Highway Code on: April 02, 2025, 21:11:48
It’s quite a while since I remember seeing this, but I’m sure in my younger days the DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency) used to include leaflets in almost every tax reminder, that attempted to keep you updated on changes to the Highway Code etc.

A simple idea, but presumably abandoned on some sort of cost grounds? 
12  All across the Great Western territory / Fare's Fair / Re: [OTD] Senior Railcard launched 1st April 1975 on: April 02, 2025, 09:57:04
I was paid cash in hand, by the foreman down in the pub on a Friday afternoon, at one of my first jobs. Quite extraordinary now when I think back to it. And certainly remember £1 notes.

More on topic, I have a physical card, so renew it each year at the ticket office. I did have a 3 year card until you had to have that on a phone, and reverted back to an annual card. Happy to pay the extra for that to help keep the ticket office open.
I have a plastic 3 year senior card issued only last July, has that been changed since then? 
13  All across the Great Western territory / Buses and other ways to travel / Re: Easyjet (re)opens Southend Airport operation on: April 01, 2025, 12:51:14
Best in the country! About 50 yards max from platform to check in desks

It's excellent - How does that compare to others with dedicated stations such as Southampton and Gatwick on the GWR (Great Western Railway) network?

At Southampton it is about 100m from the down platform to the signed departures entrance, then up to about 50m to the furthest check in.
14  All across the Great Western territory / The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom / Re: Plan for M4 to south coast corridor to avoid Bath, through West Wiltshire on: March 15, 2025, 18:45:16
Warminster to Dorset strategic route remains via the A36 to M27 junction 2, then westward via the A31. I saw a discussion on the SABRE roads forum…

Paul
15  Sideshoots - associated subjects / The Lighter Side / Re: Annoying / amusing use of completely irrelevant stock photos to illustrate press articles on: February 07, 2025, 11:21:06
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g949m4g41o

The chap reported on the BBC» (British Broadcasting Corporation - home page) having comms issues at Nantes station is a bit lost, they’ve used a photo of Tynemouth on the Tyne Wear Metro…  Roll Eyes
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