Train GraphicClick on the map to explore geographics
 
I need help
FAQ
Emergency
About .
Travel & transport from BBC stories as at 14:15 01 May 2025
 
- Snake halts Japanese bullet trains after wrapping around power line
Read about the forum [here].
Register [here] - it's free.
What do I gain from registering? [here]
 05/05/25 - Walk to Pilning
10/05/25 - BRTA Westbury
10/05/25 - Model Railway Show, Calne
13/05/25 - Melksham TUG / AGM

On this day
1st May (1972)
Bristol Parkway station opens

Train RunningCancelled
13:10 Gloucester to Weymouth
13:29 Gatwick Airport to Reading
13:46 Bristol Temple Meads to Warminster
13:57 Exmouth to Paignton
13:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading
14:12 Newbury to Reading
14:23 London Paddington to Oxford
14:25 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
14:27 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
14:34 Didcot Parkway to Banbury
14:55 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
14:57 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
15:03 Oxford to London Paddington
15:07 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
15:25 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
15:27 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
15:34 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
15:55 London Paddington to Heathrow Terminal 5
15:57 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
16:27 Heathrow Terminal 5 to London Paddington
17:34 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
18:00 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
18:34 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
19:05 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
Short Run
11:57 Great Malvern to London Paddington
12:30 London Paddington to Weston-Super-Mare
12:50 Cardiff Central to London Paddington
13:03 London Paddington to Plymouth
13:08 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
13:09 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
13:11 Taunton to Cardiff Central
13:15 London Paddington to Cardiff Central
13:38 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
13:42 Banbury to Didcot Parkway
14:08 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
14:32 Exeter Central to Okehampton
14:38 London Paddington to Didcot Parkway
15:28 Weston-Super-Mare to London Paddington
16:00 Cardiff Central to Taunton
16:50 Plymouth to London Paddington
17:30 London Paddington to Taunton
Delayed
11:03 London Paddington to Plymouth
12:51 London Paddington to Worcester Foregate Street
13:34 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
14:06 London Paddington to Newbury
14:15 Didcot Parkway to London Paddington
14:48 London Paddington to Swansea
15:30 Banbury to Didcot Parkway
15:34 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
16:07 Didcot Parkway to Oxford
16:35 Didcot Parkway to Banbury
16:35 Oxford to Didcot Parkway
etc
Abbreviation pageAcronymns and abbreviations
Stn ComparatorStation Comparator
Rail newsNews Now - live rail news feed
Site Style 1 2 3 4
Next departures • Bristol Temple MeadsBath SpaChippenhamSwindonDidcot ParkwayReadingLondon PaddingtonMelksham
Exeter St DavidsTauntonWestburyTrowbridgeBristol ParkwayCardiff CentralOxfordCheltenham SpaBirmingham New Street
May 01, 2025, 14:33:23 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Forgotten your username or password? - get a reminder
Most recently liked subjects
[114] Brighton Belle - merged topics
[99] Cash payments for transport services
[56] Steam excursion - except there's much more diesel than steam!
[46] May Timetable Change
[46] Longer distance canal walks - public transport for one way sec...
[32] "Save the Last Remaining British Rail Hovercraft from Destruct...
 
News: A forum for passengers ... with input from rail professionals welcomed too
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Unusual CIS announcments at Reading 6/7/12  (Read 5013 times)
BerkshireBugsy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1642


Berkshire Bugsy Jr


View Profile
« on: August 07, 2012, 19:14:46 »

A couple of things I have noticed at Reading recently in relation to the 1736 from Reading to Bristol TM (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context)

The first thing is that pre-olympics this services was announced on the platform with a destination of Broadford on Avon although its true destination was BTM (Bristol Temple Meads (strictly, it should be BRI) but BTM is a commonly used alternative)). My understanding was that this was to remove route confusion so passengers didn't confuse it with a Didcot/Swindon service. It is now announced, and shown on the CIS (Customer Information System) as BTM

The second thing is that the automatic PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) announcments say something like "the next train at P7 etc is the 1736 for Bristol TM calling at Theale...today this service will not call at ....but will call at..." I didn't realise that the CIS announcmements were that flexible!
Logged
phile
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1382

Language spoken Welsh as well as English


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2012, 19:32:26 »

During the Olympics the 17 06 is diverted to Westbury thence ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) to Weymouth to act as a Standby to Bristol after the sailing events.
Logged
BerkshireBugsy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1642


Berkshire Bugsy Jr


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2012, 20:09:11 »

During the Olympics the 17 06 is diverted to Westbury thence ECS (Empty Coaching Stock) to Weymouth to act as a Standby to Bristol after the sailing events.
That makes sense - many thanks
Logged
Southern Stag
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 984


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2012, 22:38:39 »

But most days it has been diverted back to Bristol because loadings on the morning services to Weymouth have been low enough not to warrant the use of an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) in the evening.
Logged
BerkshireBugsy
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1642


Berkshire Bugsy Jr


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012, 05:08:55 »

But most days it has been diverted back to Bristol because loadings on the morning services to Weymouth have been low enough not to warrant the use of an HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) in the evening.

That explains the other part of my question which is why the routing changed at the last minute - ta SS
Logged
Louis94
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 446


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2012, 11:27:30 »

The second thing is that the automatic PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) announcments say something like "the next train at P7 etc is the 1736 for Bristol TM (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context) calling at Theale...today this service will not call at ....but will call at..." I didn't realise that the CIS (Customer Information System) announcmements were that flexible!

And that's not even a quarter of what it can do, you've seen nothing, it can do loads - a lot more than what people would expect! That is automatically put in as well, soon as the calling pattern is changed that happens.

Never underestimate the power of the CIS - shame the passengers never listen to it, and then blame staff for their own failings...
« Last Edit: August 08, 2012, 11:32:56 by Louis94 » Logged
IndustryInsider
Data Manager
Hero Member
******
Posts: 10456


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2012, 11:32:37 »

Never underestimate the power of the CIS (Customer Information System)

Just a shame that they usually collapse into nonsense and inaccuracy whenever there's serious disruption...
Logged

To view my GWML (Great Western Main Line) Electrification cab video 'before and after' video comparison, as well as other videos of the new layout at Reading and 'before and after' comparisons of the Cotswold Line Redoubling scheme, see: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/IndustryInsider/
Louis94
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 446


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2012, 11:37:30 »

Just a shame that they usually collapse into nonsense and inaccuracy whenever there's serious disruption...

That's not the CIS (Customer Information System)'s fault, after all it isn't designed to operate on its own during disruption, if the correct information is input into it, it can and will operate. It can only display the information it is given at the end of the day.

During disruption the CIS needs to be operated manually either locally at the station or within control if they want it to operate with the correct information - but it seems staff don't care and just insist on doing manual announcements, which conflict with the auto PA (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context), because they don't turn it off - which in the end causes more problems because everyone gets confused on which source is correct.
Logged
phile
Hero Member
*****
Posts: 1382

Language spoken Welsh as well as English


View Profile Email
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 17:30:10 »

Severe dusruption at Cardiff today due to collapsed retaining wall preventing trains running between Queen St and Central.   The Valley trains from platforms 6 and 7 are amended and will be for up to 10/14 days.   Now my point.  The CIS (Customer Information System) Screens and associated announcements for these platforms are switched off.  If there is disruption on the Cardiff Valleys passengers are fed a load of rubbish and just confuses them more than ever when a "human" voice is announcing and conflicts with CIS
Logged
Do you have something you would like to add to this thread, or would you like to raise a new question at the Coffee Shop? Please [register] (it is free) if you have not done so before, or login (at the top of this page) if you already have an account - we would love to read what you have to say!

You can find out more about how this forum works [here] - that will link you to a copy of the forum agreement that you can read before you join, and tell you very much more about how we operate. We are an independent forum, provided and run by customers of Great Western Railway, for customers of Great Western Railway and we welcome railway professionals as members too, in either a personal or official capacity. Views expressed in posts are not necessarily the views of the operators of the forum.

As well as posting messages onto existing threads, and starting new subjects, members can communicate with each other through personal messages if they wish. And once members have made a certain number of posts, they will automatically be admitted to the "frequent posters club", where subjects not-for-public-domain are discussed; anything from the occasional rant to meetups we may be having ...

 
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.2 | SMF © 2006-2007, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
This forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), and the views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules via admin@railcustomer.info. Full legal statement (here).

Jump to top of pageJump to Forum Home Page