Gates won't accept tickets

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[ChrisB]

Try it again... Def told its 20 mins on fgw. Other TOCs^▸ (Train Operating Company) may have altered theirs since my info

[swrural]

I can't envisage who would do this potential fraud.  I break my journey and exit the station.  What nefarious scheme am I supposed to be getting up to?  I've looked back through the thread and I can't find the example.

[ChrisB]

As stated previously, it's to stop pax^▸ (passengers) passuing the same ticket back across the barrier to let others out....

[swrural]

Thanks ChrisB.  but how can they?  I mean, if the first of the pax^▸ (passengers) has passed through, then surely it records that, thus preventing the ticket passing through again until it at least has passed through in the opposite direction?

[swrural]

Also. all the barriers I passed through had to be manned to deal with the fact that they don't *%$$^_ work!
So how does this slight of hand nonsense work?

[Chris from Nailsea]

Thanks ChrisB.  but how can they?  I mean, if the first of the pax^▸ (passengers) has passed through, then surely it records that, thus preventing the ticket passing through again until it at least has passed through in the opposite direction?

A fair point. 

[Southern Stag]

If you have a season, rover or a travelcard passing through twice in the same direction is entirely possible, and I presume the barriers allow this.

[Brucey]

I witnessed today, on the tube, a sort of "passback" occurring.  Person goes through exit barrier, then inserts ticket into entrance barrier but doesn't go through.  Ticket passed back to second person, who attempts to exit.

It doesn't work as the passback setting on the gates has prevented it.

In the end, the person stuck behind the barriers decided to just push them open, after which two BTP^▸ (British Transport Police) officers stopped him and directed him to the member of barrier staff.

If you have a season, rover or a travelcard passing through twice in the same direction is entirely possible, and I presume the barriers allow this.

It is allowed, but the barriers won't accept this until after a period of time has expired.  There are some exceptions, e.g. at Waterloo, even though most platforms are behind a single gateline,  the barriers are "grouped" so you can interchange across the concourse to distant platforms.

[Southern Stag]

Indeed, but putting a season ticket or rover through in the same direction twice would be logical, hence the need for the time limit.

[6 OF 2 redundant adjunct of unimatrix 01]

When ever I have been out with someone on a Devon day ranger the first persons ticket will work but the second wont, also tickets from the guard or self serve machines are less likely to work in the barriers

[swrural]

I've read enough replies now to acquire the view that the 20 minute delay is bonkers.  Hopefully someone in FGW^▸ (First Great Western) can see that too.   

[John R]

Is it that much of an inconvenience?

[Brucey]

Not at all an inconvenience.  Simply flash the ticket at a real person and they'll let you through.  Not a huge amount of hardship.

[thetrout]

Unless the human disputes the ticket... Or worse... No human at all!

As I have ranted about in great detail in the past...