Axminster line closer to expansion

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[Btline]

Dewarw - would it be possible to drop your map now - I'm fed up with having to scroll down the vast acres of blank space that appear whenever you post. 

+1 for this

Ye, is a bit annoying.

Dewarw - would it be possible to drop your map now - I'm fed up with having to scroll down the vast acres of blank space that appear whenever you post. 

Mozilla Firefox + Adblock Plus means I haven't seen it since the day it first appeared

Dewarw - would it be possible to drop your map now - I'm fed up with having to scroll down the vast acres of blank space that appear whenever you post. 

Sorry, everyone (to be honest, I was getting sick of it as well!), the map has gone. If you wish to see it again, look on Wikipedia.

I hope you found it interesting!

I think they should scrap the units, and call some HSTs^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) there. I've been on an HST from Ivybridge and was better than a grotty 153 I was likely to get which sadly was cancelled 

I hope that this would not put 3 hour expresses to Plymouth under threat!!!!!

[devon_metro]

Would be sensible on the Plymouth terminaters/Starters

What I would propose. Bold is an HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)). Italics is time High speed train starts from Pad/Plym

To Plymouth  0700, 0820, 1016, 1210 (0905), 1341 (SWT^▸ (South West Trains)), 1422 (1105),  1610 (1305)
, 1642 (SWT), 1825 (1505),

From Plymouth:
0550 (0535(To PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains))), 0800 (0747 (from PNZ to PAD)), 1000 (0947 (from PNZ to PAD via Bristol)), 1125, 1310 (1255 (To PAD)), 1348, 1502 (SWT), 1715 (1700(To PAD)), 1803 (SWT), 1858

In summary:
 9 Trains to Plymouth (4 from Paddington)
 10 Trains from Plymouth (5 to Paddington)

[Btline]

Why not run a Newton Abbot - Saltash/Liskard "Devon Metro" service at a pretty high frequency.

Calling at:

Newton Abbot
Totnes
Ivebridge
Plympton (new station)
Plymouth
All stations beyond.

Then have some through trains as expresses in the area (ie stop some Ivebridge, Totnes HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) calls).

Ok- not enough stock blah blah, but can you see where I am coming from?

[devon_metro]

I'd love to see a station at Plympton!

"Change here for Sainsburys"

[smokey]

There used to be a Station in Plympton,

In fact east from Plymouth North Road there used to be on the line to Newton Abbot;

Mutley
Lipson Vale Halt
Laira Green
Laira Halt (staff?)
PLYMPTON
Cornwood
Ivybridge (reopened on new site)
Bittaford Platform
Wrangaton
Brent
Totnes (never closed)

[vacman]

One interesting note is that trains can still terminate/change ends at Saltash when arriving in the up platform from the Plymouth direction as there is stil an LOS signal beyond the platform and a "dummy" to bring the trains in.

[Btline]

I'd love to see a station at Plympton!

"Change here for Sainsburys"

  

I think it would be a god idea to get more commuters travelling by train. Obviously, not all of the stations could be reopened.

It is a shame the lines are not electrified, then a rapid transit system could operate in/out of Plymouth!

[Lee]

Why not run a Newton Abbot - Saltash/Liskard "Devon Metro" service at a pretty high frequency.

Calling at:

Newton Abbot
Totnes
Ivebridge
Plympton (new station)
Plymouth
All stations beyond.

Then have some through trains as expresses in the area (ie stop some Ivebridge, Totnes HST^▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) calls).

Ok- not enough stock blah blah, but can you see where I am coming from?

Various options are explored in the link below.
http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/plymrail.pdf

[smokey]

When the Axminster loop goes in and the enhanced service starts then SWT^▸ (South West Trains) don't go west of Exeter! was in their franchise bid, so Ivybridge will lose out!

Well lets just hope when the Enhanced service starts that South West Trains still run to Paignton and PLymouth, after all the DfT^» (Department for Transport - about) only specifiy the Minimum services that have to RUN. So nothing stopping SWT from still reaching Plymouth.

[vacman]

When the Axminster loop goes in and the enhanced service starts then SWT^▸ (South West Trains) don't go west of Exeter! was in their franchise bid, so Ivybridge will lose out!

Well lets just hope when the Enhanced service starts that South West Trains still run to Paignton and PLymouth, after all the DfT^» (Department for Transport - about) only specifiy the Minimum services that have to RUN. So nothing stopping SWT from still reaching Plymouth.

Ummm, if you read what I posted it says they wont be going West of Exeter, PLYMOUTH IS WEST OF EXETER!

[devon_metro]

Shame really. Its possible to get a 159 to Paignton, instead the number of trains will be reduced and I will have to sit on a pacer!

[Btline]

Shame really. Its possible to get a 159 to Paignton, instead the number of trains will be reduced and I will have to sit on a pacer!

Or probably stand!

I doubt FGW^▸ (First Great Western)/Dft/XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) will increase the number of services to compensate.

[Conner]

Shame really. Its possible to get a 159 to Paignton, instead the number of trains will be reduced and I will have to sit on a pacer!

Or probably stand!

I doubt FGW^▸ (First Great Western)/Dft/XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) will increase the number of services to compensate.

They did when ATW^▸ (Arriva Trains Wales (former Train Operating Company)) stopped train services down here and this will be a similar service level cut.

[smokey]

When the Axminster loop goes in and the enhanced service starts then SWT^▸ (South West Trains) don't go west of Exeter! was in their franchise bid, so Ivybridge will lose out!

Well lets just hope when the Enhanced service starts that South West Trains still run to Paignton and PLymouth, after all the DfT^» (Department for Transport - about) only specifiy the Minimum services that have to RUN. So nothing stopping SWT from still reaching Plymouth.

Ummm, if you read what I posted it says they wont be going West of Exeter, PLYMOUTH IS WEST OF EXETER!

I did read what you posted, I said it would be nice if SWT keep running to Plymouth. It might not be a Franchise requirement for SWT to run to Plymouth, but then a LOT of Services run By FGW^▸ (First Great Western) are above Minimum Franchise Speck.

[smokey]

Shame really. Its possible to get a 159 to Paignton, instead the number of trains will be reduced and I will have to sit on a pacer!

Or probably stand!

I doubt FGW^▸ (First Great Western)/Dft/XC^▸ (Cross Country Trains (franchise)) will increase the number of services to compensate.

They did when ATW^▸ (Arriva Trains Wales (former Train Operating Company)) stopped train services down here and this will be a similar service level cut.

It was WESSEX that kept the trains running that ATW withdrew.