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« Reply #435 on: October 16, 2015, 08:42:12 »

Quote from: Dr B Ching
returning the rail service to its former glory
Not a statement I would agree with. Aside perhaps from Four Track, Now and the Swindon-Kemble redouble, the only planned improvement I can think of which could be described as 'glorious' is the electrification and that is hardly 'former glory' as the line was never electrified in the past. Also, none of those three projects are FirstGroup's responsibility, the only thing they appear to be responsible for is the decision to go for 7x 9-car and 22x 5-car AT300s rather than retaining some IC125s (which I'm not convinced was a good decision).
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« Reply #436 on: October 17, 2015, 07:38:18 »

I can't remember which forum member it was who obsessed over where the "green" train is on any given day, but I've just spotted it....
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« Reply #437 on: October 17, 2015, 18:23:35 »

LOL ('laughing out loud')!

Funnily enough, today I was at Swindon and a member of staff said that most HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s will receive a interior refurb, and ALL with a temporary GWR (Great Western Railway) logo on the out side...
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« Reply #438 on: October 17, 2015, 19:04:22 »

Funnily enough, today I was at Swindon and a member of staff said that most HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s will receive a interior refurb, and ALL with a temporary GWR (Great Western Railway) logo on the out side...
That's good to know as I was most impressed by the new standard class interior. When you think the HSTs were last refurbished 2006/07, some carriages are starting to look a bit shabby.
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« Reply #439 on: October 17, 2015, 21:59:31 »

Funnily enough, today I was at Swindon and a member of staff said that most HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units))'s will receive a interior refurb, and ALL with a temporary GWR (Great Western Railway) logo on the out side...
That's good to know as I was most impressed by the new standard class interior. When you think the HSTs were last refurbished 2006/07, some carriages are starting to look a bit shabby.

Though many ex-first conversions are only a few months old.
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« Reply #440 on: October 17, 2015, 22:49:26 »

Additionally there are 48 converted buffets and former loco hauled Mk3s whose interiors are only 2-3 years old, and 19 micro buffet interiors around 5-6 years old.

Makes sense to concentrate interior refurbs on those Mk3 TSOs (The Stationary Office (now OPSI), or, possibly Trailer Standard Open (carriage), depending on context), TSGs and TSODs that have had 'Dynamic Lions' interiors the longest. So of which, as Timmer says, are getting a little ropey.

I'd also like to see an interior refurb of the Class 158s. Some of these are far worse than the worst examples in the Mk3 fleet.
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« Reply #441 on: October 18, 2015, 06:31:46 »

I'd also like to see an interior refurb of the Class 158s. Some of these are far worse than the worst examples in the Mk3 fleet.
Hopefully GWR (Great Western Railway) will start work on the 158s soon as they are looking both internally and externally due for a refurb.
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« Reply #442 on: October 18, 2015, 09:04:03 »

I'd also like to see an interior refurb of the Class 158s. Some of these are far worse than the worst examples in the Mk3 fleet.
Hopefully GWR (Great Western Railway) will start work on the 158s soon as they are looking both internally and externally due for a refurb.

Prob after the 166/165's.
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« Reply #443 on: October 18, 2015, 09:41:12 »

Yes, I think I remember seeing that the 158 refresh is planned once the 165/6 one is finished.
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« Reply #444 on: October 22, 2015, 14:08:11 »

I can't be the only one who thinks that if (F)GWR (Great Western Railway) repaints another HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), it ought to be into its original livery rather than GWR green.
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« Reply #445 on: October 22, 2015, 14:13:58 »

I can't be the only one who thinks that if (F)GWR (Great Western Railway) repaints another HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), it ought to be into its original livery rather than GWR green.
Oh I would like that BUT you would have to do the interior to the original spec as well for me to be happy.
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« Reply #446 on: October 22, 2015, 14:21:54 »

I can't be the only one who thinks that if (F)GWR (Great Western Railway) repaints another HST (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)), it ought to be into its original livery rather than GWR green.

I think it would be lovely for one to be returned to orignal blue/grey InterCity 125 livery but not yet, the final six months of HST operation on our routes would be great.
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« Reply #447 on: October 22, 2015, 14:29:59 »

Confirmation at the House of Commons last night (Hi BobM!) that all stock being retained through the end of the franchise *will* be repainted into GWR (Great Western Railway) green. So not the Adelantes and any/all HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) not being retained, but otherwise as & when they go in for overhaul, they'll get the repaint too.
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« Reply #448 on: October 23, 2015, 05:55:27 »

Confirmation at the House of Commons last night (Hi BobM!) that all stock being retained through the end of the franchise *will* be repainted into GWR (Great Western Railway) green. So not the Adelantes and any/all HSTs (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) not being retained, but otherwise as & when they go in for overhaul, they'll get the repaint too.
They might as well because with the way electrification is going, HSTs are going to be around for longer than originally planned. You know it's bad when they can't give revised completion dates. I can see First getting an extension of the GW» (Great Western - used as an abbreviation for the area / lines under the Great Western franchise, as opposed to FGW which includes "First", the company operating them too. For tickets - about) franchise beyond 2019 because work to electrify the lines will still be taking place at this rate. After all the plan was for First to 'manage' the GW route during the time of electrification and Crossrail along with introducing the new IEP (Intercity Express Program / Project. This will offer more capacity on routes, save money, give a consistent and safe service and meet customer requirements. Intended to replace HSTs.) fleet so Dft could offer a new franchise with everything complete and in place.
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« Reply #449 on: October 23, 2015, 06:58:57 »

The newcompletion date will be sonething that the Hendy report will contain - thus they won't release that until the report comes out - towards the end of November I hear at the earliest
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