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« Reply #120 on: February 20, 2018, 21:02:05 »
Did it arrive?
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« Reply #121 on: February 20, 2018, 21:03:34 »
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« Reply #122 on: February 21, 2018, 10:22:19 »
Did I hear the first set would be without power doors for now?
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« Reply #123 on: February 21, 2018, 10:56:23 »
Quote from: Adelante_CCT on February 21, 2018, 10:22:19
Did I hear the first set would be without power doors for now?

In searching through last night (for a picture of a red HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) - don't ask!) I came across the "Virgin Challenger" - a five car HST that was in use around the time of Voyager introduction - pictures at http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/HST.htm on Taunton Trains - 14th and 15th pictures down.

Logic suggests to me that if the conversion is far, far slower than was expected, could not HSTs being retired from regular HST runs be "challenged" and run in service that way, then converted as the shops in Doncaster (?) have capacity.  Downers I can see are the station dwell times would need to allow an extra minute or so for door closing, and conversion of loos would need to be completed in any case for 2020.
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« Reply #124 on: February 21, 2018, 11:20:19 »
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Very simple answer.............. Yes
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« Reply #125 on: February 21, 2018, 12:09:23 »
There are additional costs in running a full HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) over the 5car cutdown. Both NR» (Network Rail - home page) and fuel....
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« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2018, 12:39:38 »
Quote from: grahame on February 21, 2018, 10:56:23
Quote from: Adelante_CCT on February 21, 2018, 10:22:19
Did I hear the first set would be without power doors for now?
http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/HST.htm

Some great memories looking back at some of these pictures, but am intrigued what the guy is doing on the line in the second picture?
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« Reply #127 on: February 22, 2018, 07:41:38 »
Quote from: Phantom on February 21, 2018, 12:39:38
Quote from: grahame on February 21, 2018, 10:56:23
Quote from: Adelante_CCT on February 21, 2018, 10:22:19
Did I hear the first set would be without power doors for now?
http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/oldsite/HST.htm

Some great memories looking back at some of these pictures, but am intrigued what the guy is doing on the line in the second picture?



The caption says it's 1908, so anything was possible then!!
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« Reply #128 on: February 24, 2018, 15:11:57 »
Is this clockface service stopping at all stations on the Cornish Main Line?
Saltash; St Germans; Menheniot; Liskeard; Bodmin; Lostwithiel; Par; St Austell; Truro; Redruth; Camborne; Hayle; St Erth; Penzance.
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« Reply #129 on: February 24, 2018, 15:24:57 »
Quote from: Plymboi on February 24, 2018, 15:11:57
Is this clockface service stopping at all stations on the Cornish Main Line?
Saltash; St Germans; Menheniot; Liskeard; Bodmin; Lostwithiel; Par; St Austell; Truro; Redruth; Camborne; Hayle; St Erth; Penzance.

Don't know ... but the very first cutdown HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) is planned for the 06:00 off Penzance which is one of the very few services still to call at Menheniot.  So they can call at even the smallest stations.
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« Reply #130 on: March 11, 2018, 18:07:40 »
First set returning south Tomorrow night....

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O80173/2018/03/12/advanced
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« Reply #131 on: March 11, 2018, 18:42:37 »
Quote from: richwarwicker on March 11, 2018, 18:07:40
First set returning south Tomorrow night....

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Timed for 59mph max
Diesel locomotive, trailing load 715 tonnes

Running in?

There were suggestions that some of the planned changes may not have happened.  Do we know if it's got retention toilets? Automatic doors? Green paint? Battery or hydrogen power?  Electronic seat reservation and destination indicators? A buffet?
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« Reply #132 on: March 11, 2018, 19:01:50 »
Quote from: grahame on March 11, 2018, 18:42:37
Quote from: richwarwicker on March 11, 2018, 18:07:40
First set returning south Tomorrow night....

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Timed for 59mph max
Diesel locomotive, trailing load 715 tonnes

Running in?

There were suggestions that some of the planned changes may not have happened.  Do we know if it's got retention toilets? Automatic doors? Green paint? Battery or hydrogen power?  Electronic seat reservation and destination indicators? A buffet?

Seats? Doors? Carriage ends? I imagine the later will reduce speed if they’re absent!  Grin
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« Reply #133 on: March 11, 2018, 19:37:59 »
Needs a driver mind.
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« Reply #134 on: March 11, 2018, 20:28:27 »
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Needs a driver mind.

Do such things exist?
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