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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2018, 08:09:35 »
1A72 the 0553 Plymouth - London Paddington is also now scheduled to be operated by Class 802 IETs▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) (003 & 005) from Monday 20th August.

The double set is headed down to Devon & Cornwall from Stoke Gifford on the 15th or 16th for some staff training, along with depot clearance in Penzance. Then on Friday 17th there will be a low key non-passenger launch event with the set(s) travelling from Plymouth (Laira) to Exeter St Davids and return.
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« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2018, 17:34:32 »
Any updates on the 1C04 0730 London Paddington to Penzance, on Monday? I'd like to be on it from Plymouth through Cornwall if it runs as an IET▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)).
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« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2018, 18:30:10 »
From a specific thread on 1C04:

Quote from: PhilWakely on August 15, 2018, 21:13:17
Quote from: want2workrail on August 15, 2018, 18:56:38
I can confirm the possibly of an IET▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) on this service as my ticket reservation was for coach J which, of course, does not exist on HST▸ (High Speed Train (Inter City class 43 125 units)) services.  This was corroborated by GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) station staff at RDG▸ (Rail Delivery Group, or Reading station, depending on context) (Reading for those of you who don't know (don't want another telling off by Bignosemac with his sarcastic undertones  Wink )) and GWR's social media services.

All things being well, 1C04 WILL be an IET (or rather 2x5-car) from Monday, 20th August



A few times now I've mentioned that this thread is, to my mind, on the wrong board. The Class 802s are not limited to running in Devon and Cornwall.
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« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2018, 19:17:32 »
Quote from: bignosemac on August 16, 2018, 18:30:10
A few times now I've mentioned that this thread is, to my mind, on the wrong board. The Class 802s are not limited to running in Devon and Cornwall.

You are probably right ... it's been rather busy, and that's not been top of the pile.  But can't disagree with you - will move
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« Reply #49 on: August 16, 2018, 19:35:45 »
Quote from: grahame on August 16, 2018, 19:17:32
Quote from: bignosemac on August 16, 2018, 18:30:10
A few times now I've mentioned that this thread is, to my mind, on the wrong board. The Class 802s are not limited to running in Devon and Cornwall.

You are probably right ... it's been rather busy, and that's not been top of the pile.  But can't disagree with you - will move

I won't mention that they will also see extensive use on the London to Oxford/Cotswolds route as well...  Wink
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« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2018, 19:46:57 »
Quote from: IndustryInsider on August 16, 2018, 19:35:45
I won't mention that they will also see extensive use on the London to Oxford/Cotswolds route as well...  Wink

They are, at least, west of London.  Tongue
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« Reply #51 on: August 17, 2018, 08:41:09 »
Today at 1028 there seems to be the launch of the IET▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) Class 802 by GWR▸ (Great Western Railway). It is running from Penzance to Plymouth
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/V08339/2018/08/17/advanced.

There was a clearance trial yesterday at Long Rock and it stayed overnight there
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« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2018, 12:47:39 »
Coming back as a passenger / invited guest special

https://www.facebook.com/gwruk/videos/2167865336816552/
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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2018, 13:40:33 »
The video contains a very rare CONFIRMED sighting of Mark Hopwood, MD of GWR▸ (Great Western Railway).

It looks lovely on a carefully stage managed press launch. I heard no mention of the "B word" only pointing out how wonderful the trolley is.

Now wait for the reality of crush loaded 5 car trains with a hidden trolley.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2018, 13:43:15 »
Quote from: broadgage on August 17, 2018, 13:40:33
The video contains a very rare CONFIRMED sighting of Mark Hopwood, MD of GWR▸ (Great Western Railway).

It looks lovely on a carefully stage managed press launch. I heard no mention of the "B word" only pointing out how wonderful the trolley is.

Now wait for the reality of crush loaded 5 car trains with a hidden trolley.

You don’t like the trolley? Since when  Cheesy
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« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2018, 13:56:19 »
It is not just me who considers a trolley inadequate on a long distance train.
Many reviews on trip advisor and similar sites criticise the absence of a buffet car on the IETs▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) to Bristol and beyond.

With the downgrading of Penzance services to "no buffet" and mainly shorter DMUs▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit)  I expect more such dissatisfaction.
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A proper intercity train has a minimum of 8 coaches, gangwayed throughout, with first at one end, and a full sized buffet car between first and standard.
It has space for cycles, surfboards,luggage etc.
A 5 car DMU▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit) is not a proper inter-city train. The 5+5 and 9 car DMUs are almost as bad.
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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2018, 00:38:20 »
Quote from: broadgage on August 17, 2018, 13:56:19
It is not just me who considers a trolley inadequate on a long distance train.
Many reviews on trip advisor and similar sites criticise the absence of a buffet car on the IETs▸ (Intercity Express Train - replacement for HSTs (manufactured by Hitachi in Kobe, Japan)) to Bristol and beyond.

With the downgrading of Penzance services to "no buffet" and mainly shorter DMUs▸ (Diesel Multiple Unit)  I expect more such dissatisfaction.

Whilst i agree the IET's should have a buffet and kitchen (situated between first and standard, andthe current kitchen being made into a luggage area, and bicycle storage area. It all depends if GWR▸ (Great Western Railway) don't ball it up and put 5 car trains down to Devon/Cornwall from Paddington, hopefully as more staff get trained up this won't be an issue.
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« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2018, 09:36:59 »
Quote from: broadgage on August 17, 2018, 13:40:33
The video contains a very rare CONFIRMED sighting of Mark Hopwood, MD of GWR▸ (Great Western Railway).

It looks lovely on a carefully stage managed press launch. I heard no mention of the "B word" only pointing out how wonderful the trolley is.

Now wait for the reality of crush loaded 5 car trains with a hidden trolley.

But he's still without any communication skills so far as his long suffering passengers are concerned
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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2018, 15:10:27 »
Quote from: phile on August 18, 2018, 09:36:59
But he's still without any communication skills so far as his long suffering passengers are concerned
Oh I don’t know...I thought he did a very good welcoming everyone abroad over the train’s PA▸ (Public Address (broadcast loudspeaker announcements) or Passenger Assist (railway staff providing physical assistance to passengers with mobility issues), depending on context) system  Smiley
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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2018, 15:24:44 »
He should be reasonably proficient over a tannoy, given his hobby of being a DJ.
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