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« on: November 17, 2018, 19:27:48 »
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IBM Halt (IBM)

IBM station
Spango Valley
near Greenock
Inverclyde
PA16 0XB

Trains will no longer call at this station from 9 December 2018. The closest alternative stations are Inverkip and Branchton.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 19:42:35 »
There doesn't appear to have been any closure process. My best guess as to why is that it was never a public railway station in legal terms, but opened as a private facility for IBM with no access except across their land, and subsequent changes bringing in other employers haven't altered that. Or at least that Scotrail's lawyers think so.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2018, 20:24:29 »
I took a look at Real Time Trains to see if I could find a "Party" service left, but didn't spot one.  Final train appears to be the 23:39 Wemyss Bay to Glasgow Central on 8th December, which calls at 23:48.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2018, 23:17:36 »
Quote from: grahame on November 17, 2018, 20:24:29
I took a look at Real Time Trains to see if I could find a "Party" service left, but didn't spot one.  Final train appears to be the 23:39 Wemyss Bay to Glasgow Central on 8th December, which calls at 23:48.
Huh Is this a Famous Grahame Typo(TM▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context)) for "Parly" or something else (maybe a service only open to specific parties, ie in this case IBM employees)?
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2018, 01:01:40 »
Suggestions elsewhere that there are no other employees on the site now.

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2018, 01:10:01 »
Quote from: Bmblbzzz on November 17, 2018, 23:17:36
Quote from: grahame on November 17, 2018, 20:24:29
I took a look at Real Time Trains to see if I could find a "Party" service left, but didn't spot one.  Final train appears to be the 23:39 Wemyss Bay to Glasgow Central on 8th December, which calls at 23:48.
Huh Is this a Famous Grahame Typo(TM▸ (Train Manager, or Ticket Machine, or Temple Meads (Bristol), depending on context)) for "Parly" or something else (maybe a service only open to specific parties, ie in this case IBM employees)?

There are IBM retirees in my part of the world here in Central Brittany, and let me tell you, 24-hour Party People doesn't even begin to cover it round here.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2018, 03:09:37 »
Yes - I meant "Parly" not "Party" - sorry about that.  Autocorrect rather than misrouted finger for once - nearly had the same thing happen as I confirmed the amendment.

I was wondering if it was a full closure or reduction to a parliamentary service. That latter would be a service reduction to a minimal occasional train (perhaps one each way a day or week) stopping to avoid the need for a closure procedure and mothball the station ...

Noting on WikiPedia (it does add "Citation needed"):
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It is unknown if this closure would be permanent as there is scheduled to be a housing development built on site.

Passenger ticket sales over recent years ... latter figure in this series to March 2017
128741 / 117359 / 93954 / 93519 / 205748 / 145664 / 136414 / 127826 / 122590 / 71128 / 47376 / 22016 / 6032
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2018, 08:12:28 »
Wish I had got off now....
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2018, 09:41:55 »
Does anyone know what the three letter code is for the station under discussion? Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2018, 10:00:45 »
Quote from: bignosemac on November 18, 2018, 09:41:55
Does anyone know what the three letter code is for the station under discussion? Tongue

It follows a pattern set by Ayr, Ash, Ore, Par, Rye, Wye and Ely
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2018, 10:13:26 »
You forgot Lee, Lye and Wem. Tongue

I think a better three letter code for IBM would have been to use the three preceding letters of the alphabet.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2018, 10:40:58 »
Quote from: grahame on November 18, 2018, 10:00:45
Quote from: bignosemac on November 18, 2018, 09:41:55
Does anyone know what the three letter code is for the station under discussion? Tongue

It follows a pattern set by Ayr, Ash, Ore, Par, Rye, Wye and Ely

.......and Camberwick Green, Trumpton and Chigley.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2018, 17:25:33 »
Quote from: bignosemac on November 18, 2018, 10:13:26
I think a better three letter code for IBM would have been to use the three preceding letters of the alphabet.

I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen...

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2018, 17:32:43 »
Quote from: bignosemac on November 18, 2018, 10:13:26
I think a better three letter code for IBM would have been to use the three preceding letters of the alphabet.

And then take the three letter code from Scotland and apply it to the station that currently use it in Cheshire?
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2018, 11:38:08 »
Posted elsewhere that its not closing (officially), but services not calling for the present.  Item 3.4 here: http://www.spt.co.uk/documents/latest/SP231118_Agenda10.pdf
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