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« on: December 03, 2021, 14:34:09 »
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Alterations to services between Fareham and Southampton Central
Due to a wartime bomb near the railway between Fareham and Southampton Central some lines towards Newport (South Wales) are blocked.
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Train services running through these stations will be delayed by up to 20 minutes or diverted. Disruption is expected until 18:00 03/12.
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2021, 16:22:51 »
ordnance has been exploded and trains running back to normal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-59520018
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2021, 16:42:26 »
Odd looking “bomb” wasn’t it?  Anyone know what it really was?

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2021, 18:02:10 »
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Alterations to services between Fareham and Southampton Central
Due to a wartime bomb near the railway between Fareham and Southampton Central some lines towards Newport (South Wales) are blocked.
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Train services running through these stations will be delayed by up to 20 minutes or diverted. Disruption is expected until 18:00 03/12.

It seems somewhat bizarre to describe the impact of something between Southampton and Fareham having an effect on "lines towards Newport (South Wales)".
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2021, 19:54:32 »
Quote from: paul7575 on December 03, 2021, 16:42:26
Odd looking “bomb” wasn’t it?  Anyone know what it really was?

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Incendiary bomb perhaps?  Would have probably made a smaller bang when the bomb disposal people blew it up than a larger conventional bomb.

Edit:  Image search online for "ww2 German incendiary bomb" brings up similar looking devices to that found.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2021, 22:47:08 »
It's not only trains that are being disrupted by misplaced ordnance......

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/gloucester-news/bomb-squad-called-gloucestershire-royal-6298076
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2021, 12:06:03 »
Quote from: johnneyw on December 03, 2021, 19:54:32
Quote from: paul7575 on December 03, 2021, 16:42:26
Odd looking “bomb” wasn’t it?  Anyone know what it really was?

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Incendiary bomb perhaps?  Would have probably made a smaller bang when the bomb disposal people blew it up than a larger conventional bomb.

Edit:  Image search online for "ww2 German incendiary bomb" brings up similar looking devices to that found.

The Southampton Echo included a second tweeted photo showing a better end view of a flat base which seemed to me to have a slight flange and a central primer.  It’s difficult to assess the overall size though…

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/19760611.wartime-bomb-found-near-railway-sholing-netley/

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2021, 13:08:53 »
That looks like an AA round, such as 40 mm "Bofors".
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2021, 14:29:49 »
Quote from: stuving on December 04, 2021, 13:08:53
That looks like an AA round, such as 40 mm "Bofors".
That’s what I was coming round to, the only remaining query being the overall body colour, I thought a 40mm Bofors cartridge would normally be brass? 

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2021, 16:56:41 »
Quote from: paul7575 on December 04, 2021, 14:29:49
Quote from: stuving on December 04, 2021, 13:08:53
That looks like an AA round, such as 40 mm "Bofors".
That’s what I was coming round to, the only remaining query being the overall body colour, I thought a 40mm Bofors cartridge would normally be brass? 

Paul

Usually, yes, but steel-cased rounds did exist, hence "such as". But suggesting it was for AA fire is only based on what was likely to be used around cities. The rim profile, and the shape of the base, primer, and the nose end would all guide an expert identification.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2021, 09:02:45 »
Could be from Oerlikon 20 mm cannon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oerlikon_20_mm_cannon
preferred by Royal Navy to 40 mm Bofors.

Damned inconsiderate of builders not leave a scale next to it!
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