London-West Timetable

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[Conner]

Exactly. What about them stopping?

Pewsey is an Intercity station, always has been.
Exeter semi-fasts are not intercity, they have to slow journey times.
Pewsey stops have always been incoporated.
What is it with you and fast trains?
We like our trains to pick up people, so they need to stop at the right stations.
Penzance trains should be.
Penzance-St.Erth-Camborne-Redruth-Truro-St.Austell-Par-Bodmin Parkway-Liskeard-Plymouth-Totnes-Newton Abbot-Exeter St Davids-Taunton-Westbury-Reading-London Paddington
With Hayle, Saltash and Lostwithiel stops 3 times a day.
Morning and evening peaks should also call at Menheniot, St Germans and Devonport.

Plymouth trains should be:
Plymouth-Totnes-Newton Abbot-Exeter St Davids-Tiverton Parkway-Taunton-Castle Cary-Westbury-Pewsey-Newbury-Reading-London Paddington
Ivybridge should have a service 3 times a day.
Teignmouth and Dawlish should have one train a day.
The best 'tourist' train should stop at Slough if possible as well.

[devon_metro]

Er, too many stops at Westbury!! Also - all trains should stop Tiverton Parkway.

[Btline]

Er, too many stops at Westbury!! Also - all trains should stop Tiverton Parkway.

Yes. Also- Why do some trains skip Taunton (e.g. Cornish Riviera)?

[Btline]

At Ivybridge?

What is the sence in that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[oooooo]

I think every train ex PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) for the West of England after 16:00 calls at Newbury bar the 18:03 Golden Hind. This was far from the case years ago. Am sure this is to provide extra seats for the 'commuters' but most of these trains are already full with long distance passengers, its just a way of saying they are porviding more seats for the commuters when in reality they are making it a nightmare for both parties...

[vacman]

Pewsey was actually a Network Southeast station, it was the furthest West NSE^▸ (Network South East) station on the Western region I believe, or certainly on the B&H^▸ (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury).

[Conner]

Er, too many stops at Westbury!! Also - all trains should stop Tiverton Parkway.

Tiverton Parkway was not included on the Penzance starters as they are going to be very busy by the time they get there and not that many people as many people will travel Tiverton-West of Plymouth than Tiverton-London.

I included Westbury in all services as it is a big link to Bristol, Portsmouth, Brighton, Weymouth etc. You can get to many places from Westbury, it is kind of where the Intercity and Local networks meet and a train every hour will improve connections for everyone.

[swlines]

Tiverton requires a service that equates to a train every 1-2 hours (think it's every hour and a quarter) on FGW^▸ (First Great Western) IC^▸ (Inter City). Unless you plan to run Plymouth - Paddington hourly (which you probably won't be able to anyway with stock allowances and formations) then some Penzance trains will HAVE to stop.

Besides does a Plymouth - London route really demand a service every half an hour in that respect (bearing in mind they'll arrive at Paddington/Plymouth 10 minutes apart really).

[Conner]

Thsi topic will be for discussions on the timetable for London-West.
I will be producing a timetable and publishing it soon and would like some views on it.

[devon_metro]

Er, too many stops at Westbury!! Also - all trains should stop Tiverton Parkway.

Tiverton Parkway was not included on the Penzance starters as they are going to be very busy by the time they get there and not that many people as many people will travel Tiverton-West of Plymouth than Tiverton-London.

I included Westbury in all services as it is a big link to Bristol, Portsmouth, Brighton, Weymouth etc. You can get to many places from Westbury, it is kind of where the Intercity and Local networks meet and a train every hour will improve connections for everyone.

You simply can't drop Tiverton and add in Westbury!! Most people going to Bristol change at Taunton/Exeter anyway. Westbury doesn't need an hourly service, it adds more time to the journey than a stop at Tiverton and even if trains are busy, they are often full up to Taunton anyhow, so Tiverton is therefore a sensible stop!

[Conner]

I have got stopping points for London-West services but will need to do times.

[devon_metro]

PLY^» (Plymouth - next trains) xx00
TOT^▸ (Totnes station) xx27
NTA^» (Newton Abbott - next trains) xx40
EXD^» (Exeter St Davids - next trains) xx00 (often xx02)
TIV xx16
TAU^» (Taunton - next trains) xx30
RDG^▸ (Rail Delivery Group, or Reading station, depending on context) xx50
PAD^» (Paddington (London) - next trains) xx19

[Btline]

Pewsey was actually a Network Southeast station, it was the furthest West NSE^▸ (Network South East) station on the Western region I believe, or certainly on the B&H^▸ (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury).

No, I think Bedwyn was the furthest west NSE station. That is why the Thames Turbo service terminates at Bedwyn.

That is also why there are few direct Pewsey to Bedwyn services.

[devon_metro]

Pewsey was actually a Network Southeast station, it was the furthest West NSE^▸ (Network South East) station on the Western region I believe, or certainly on the B&H^▸ (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury).

No, I think Bedwyn was the furthest west NSE station. That is why the Thames Turbo service terminates at Bedwyn.

That is also why there are few direct Pewsey to Bedwyn services.

Correct
 http://www.rodge.force9.co.uk/images/map.jpg

[Btline]

Pewsey was actually a Network Southeast station, it was the furthest West NSE^▸ (Network South East) station on the Western region I believe, or certainly on the B&H^▸ (Berks and Hants - railway line from Reading to Taunton via Westbury).

No, I think Bedwyn was the furthest west NSE station. That is why the Thames Turbo service terminates at Bedwyn.

That is also why there are few direct Pewsey to Bedwyn services.

Correct
 http://www.rodge.force9.co.uk/images/map.jpg

Thanks, Dm, for that very interesting map. i was surprised to see Exeter as part of NSE, and Birmingham/Worcester not in NSE!

Also interesting to see how today's "London and the South East" map relates.

Why did NSE stop at Bedwyn? Did it always? Why not Pewsey (which possibly deserves more local trains)?