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« on: November 07, 2024, 14:10:44 »

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=431500369544958

From a suggestion in "my London" - 10p to cross the river at Blackfriars

Where else are there still platform tickets, and is Blackfriars unique in what it offers?



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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2024, 14:59:36 »

Do you get a discount with a travel card, assuming you don't use it in peak hours?
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2024, 15:27:58 »

Assuming you mean a Travelcard ticket - these are valid for crossing the Thames during the period that they are valid & a platform ticket would not be required.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2024, 17:38:36 »

Assuming you mean a Travelcard ticket - these are valid for crossing the Thames during the period that they are valid & a platform ticket would not be required.

But grahame's ticket clearly states, it is "Not valid for travel"  Grin


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William Huskisson MP (Member of Parliament, or Mile Post (a method of measuring the railway in miles and chains from a starting point - usually London), depending on context) was the first person to be killed by a train while crossing the tracks, in 1830.  Many more have died in the same way since then.  Don't take a chance: Stop, Look, Listen.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2024, 17:45:19 »

You've lost me - Graham means walking, not getting on a train to cross - but walking from one end of the platform to the other, across the Thames. The platform isn't a right of way, hence a platform ticket being required
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2024, 21:44:10 »

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=431500369544958

From a suggestion in "my London" - 10p to cross the river at Blackfriars

Where else are there still platform tickets, and is Blackfriars unique in what it offers?

I guess Blackfriars is unique in what it offers, but it is possible to purchase a platform ticket from any staffed ticket office for 10p. However, I believe (I may be wrong!) that the general policy is that they are not required to access the platform.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2024, 22:00:03 »

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=431500369544958

From a suggestion in "my London" - 10p to cross the river at Blackfriars

Where else are there still platform tickets, and is Blackfriars unique in what it offers?

I guess Blackfriars is unique in what it offers, but it is possible to purchase a platform ticket from any staffed ticket office for 10p. However, I believe (I may be wrong!) that the general policy is that they are not required to access the platform.

I don't think you can buy a platform ticket at stations with ticket gates.  Non-gated stations, yes and yes, they're still 10p.  I'm sure by the letter of the Railway by-laws you need one but since at non-gated stations, there's no-one on the barrier checking tickets, of course you can just walk on to the platform.  I don't think a booking clerk would sell one to someone who said they simply wanted to go on to the platform to see granny off.  They'd just say you don't need one.

Until last year, you could even still buy platform tickets at Tube stations - cost £1.00.  Just another option on the ticket machines until removed in a software update.

The footbridge over the railway at Welwyn Garden City used to be similar to the situation with the long platform crossing the river at Blackfriars today i.e. you needed a platform ticket to go across it.  I haven't been there since my days doing London Country Golden Rovers back in the late 70s.  Anyone know the position now?
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2024, 22:07:22 »

I guess Blackfriars is unique in what it offers ....

That was my guess too, and I tried to think of stations with multiple entrances not close to each other with no easy other way around.    One really big tangential question I have is Sheffield which is an open station because the footbridge is a significant public right of way, and if games a platform ticket to walk through might sell.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2024, 22:35:24 »

You've lost me - Graham means walking, not getting on a train to cross - but walking from one end of the platform to the other, across the Thames. The platform isn't a right of way, hence a platform ticket being required

I do note your point, ChrisB - but 'walking along the platform' is still classed as 'travelling': see https://www.transport.gov.scot/active-travel/  Wink

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2024, 23:06:18 »

Also Guildford to get fron the main enterance to the western enterance but they discribe the ticket as a bridge pass.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2024, 00:00:40 »

Also Guildford to get fron the main enterance to the western enterance but they discribe the ticket as a bridge pass.

I don't know the current position but this is interesting https://www.southwesternrailway.com/other/news-and-media/news/2023/october/guildford-station-footbridge

I believe the bridge pass is/was free.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2024, 12:40:04 »

I do note your point, ChrisB - but 'walking along the platform' is still classed as 'travelling': see https://www.transport.gov.scot/active-travel/  Wink

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2024, 12:47:50 »

I do note your point, ChrisB - but 'walking along the platform' is still classed as 'travelling': see https://www.transport.gov.scot/active-travel/  Wink

Interestingly the illustrative image says "not valid for travel" - but is the image just the payment receipt and not the ticket?
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2024, 12:51:28 »

Good spot - how many 'tickets' have space for signatures - and "Retail Sundry" typed on the base of the orange stripe?
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2024, 15:15:26 »

Good spot - how many 'tickets' have space for signatures - and "Retail Sundry" typed on the base of the orange stripe?

I have a suspicion that's all the ticket you get. It's a receipt for the payment, to be produced if proof is required. Having "not valid for travel" on it is not a problem, rather the opposite, and as it's not a ticket you can't expect to use it on a train. Why bother to define a ticket to be printed as well?
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